Ali lauds Lewis

its a bit unfair to compare fighters of today with fighters of yesteryear. the fighters of the 60s/70s wouldnt stand a chance against todays fighters simply because the human training techniques have moved forward. we've seen this in athletics (world records have been pushed further and further). in fact it happens in all sports.

if the current premiership champs (arsenal) played the division one league winners of say 1970, arsenal would beat the 1970 champs into the ground. lol i dont think the old team would have ever seen a human being run as fast as henry in their lives. in fact im sure henry might be able to run faster than the then olympic 100m champ!

of course this would all be very difficult to (dis)prove.
 
lol so Forman had less power than lewis ? maybe not tyson but Lewis ? oh my god hes only beat up ppl that are over the hill ffs

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unfortunately there is no way we can actually measure the punching power of a top class boxer of 1970s with one of 2000. however, the only sport where we can do direct measurements is athletics, swimming weightlifting and those type of sports. all these sports without exception, show that the human is getting faster and stronger. there is NO EXCEPTION.

and yes lewis probably is stronger than foreman was, although they were different types of fighters. try foreman vs tyson. the newer fighter (tyson) was definetly stronger.
 
well i find watching them figth much better than lewis and tyson .. and , we all do :)

before u say i am like 50 years old or somthing put it this way .. i am under 18 :))

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Originally posted by Pinky
lol so Forman had less power than lewis ? maybe not tyson but Lewis ? oh my god hes only beat up ppl that are over the hill ffs

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There have been many big punchers in the heavyweight division, but there's more to boxing than big punching.

Foreman wasn't a good boxer, but could bully his opponents as he was bigger than everyone in the 70's, but he would be an average/small heavyweight nowadays and as such his power wouldn't have as much effect.

Foreman would also run out of ideas after four rounds of eating Lewis' jab, he wouldn't be able to last the pace and Lewis, being bigger than anyone Foreman has ever faced and hitting harder than anyone he has faced, would knock him spark out.

Oh yeah, ffs.:p
 
so lewis is just a bit fat lump ? who sticks his massive long left out ? his=fatness=his skill ... as u have noticed i don't like him :)
so u lot reckon he could beat Ali ? serious? umm lol :)

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Originally posted by Pinky
so lewis is just a bit fat lump ? who sticks his massive long left out ? his=fatness=his skill ... as u have noticed i don't like him :)
so u lot reckon he could beat Ali ? serious? umm lol :)

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I thought I made it clear, yes, he would beat Ali.

I'm a big fat lump, Lewis is a finely tuned athlete who is too big and powerful for Ali, as he was for another cruiserweight, Holyfield.

Serious, you bet.:)
 
i would also agree that lewis would beat ali.

no way any fighter (or more generally, an athlete) from the 70s can compete against a fighter of the 21st century. its just a different class. its like comparing jesse owens (in his prime) to maurice greene (in his prime). jesse owens in his prime wouldnt even make the final of the 2000 olympic games. in fact i doubt he would even make the semi finals. not because jesse owens is a weak runner, but because people (physically), nutrition and training techniques have improved over the years.

if lewis were magically sent back in time to face ali, ali would be shocked at the punching power, accuracy, jabbing, size of lewis; but that doesnt make lewis a better fighter cuz lewis has the advantage of being born at a later time. now if ali had the advantages of nutrition, training, regime of the 21st century (like lewis has) ali would probably win.

it seems that ali had more guile (something that he would have in any time/decade) and that counts a lot in boxing...a quick thinking mind.
 
The Ali - Lewis debate can go on for ever , it atkes a lot to make me believe that anyone could beat Ali in his prime but things have moved on and we are living in a totally different world


Having seen the way Lewis despatched Tyson makes me believe that he prepares himself for what is in front of him , given the challenge he is capable of taking on everything in front of him and a lot more

Lewis is very underestimated and when in the right frame of mind is an incredible fighter
 
Yes ok i agree if Ali was around to figth now he would knock NO SWEARINGoutta Lewis ..they were differnt figths back then .

Alls i am trying to get across is ali at some point fougth more rounds didn't he ? or is this before his time ?

Look how clever the guy is come on he beat old age ffs :)

And just look at the pace off the figths back then ... boxing will never me the same thx to them .. sorry but no 1s gonna have the effect that Ali had a true sportsman , and no1 could ever take that away from his even lewis :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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indeed he was , now lewis think hes well good cos he beat tyson but all nearly all off us know Tyson is a mer shadow off his former self tyson would knock him out when he was about 20

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