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Quick question, are all 939 socket mobos compatible with the newer 939 AMD X2 CPUs? Thinking of upgrading my 3500+ Newcastle to something a bit quicker. Board is an Asus K8V.
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All 939 mobos dual core compatible?
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99% are. Mainly it's the OEM boards from large system builders that have never recieved the necessary bios updates that don't plus certain very early boards. As said, worth double checking on the manufacture's website & installing the latest bios prior to installation.
NO! i have and Abit AX8 V1 that is NOT dual core compatible.... which is a total.... unfortunately this is a family board so I can't say what i really think, but suffice to say I'm highly unlikely to buy another Abit board again.
Before buying check with the manufacturer and make sure so that you don't end up in the same situation as me... i can't upgrade my pc meaningfully without throwing away my motherboard processor and ram... (AM2 only supports DDR2 ram which 939 doesn't support...)
Before buying check with the manufacturer and make sure so that you don't end up in the same situation as me... i can't upgrade my pc meaningfully without throwing away my motherboard processor and ram... (AM2 only supports DDR2 ram which 939 doesn't support...)
Yea, best thing to do is check the manufacturers web site.
I know the asus web site has pretty up to date information about the compatibility of their mainboards.
Also the amd web site to a handy compatibility thing, mine wasnt on there
although it is compatible.. 
so watch out.. might answer a question if your lucky.
http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Processors/TechnicalResources/1,,30_182_869_9460^9461,00.html?1175095829
I know the asus web site has pretty up to date information about the compatibility of their mainboards.
Also the amd web site to a handy compatibility thing, mine wasnt on there
although it is compatible.. so watch out.. might answer a question if your lucky.http://www.amd.com/gb-uk/Processors/TechnicalResources/1,,30_182_869_9460^9461,00.html?1175095829
Its a shame that you are judging your experience of Abits on one of their most budget of budget boards, that was produced yonks before dual core came out, purely because it does not support something that had not yet been invented?
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Darn good point there
And yep, majority do with a Bios update and make sure you flash it with the current cpu as in some cases it won't boot with the dual core before its flashed.*rant ahead!*
Well, thinking about it, I’m more annoyed at AMD at the moment, when I brought my 939 board i thought it would be about for ages allowing me to incrementally upgrade... unfortunately this proved not to be the case.
I’m now left in an annoying situation with no upgrade path... but I’m 3 years older and for that reason likely to go Intel next time I upgrade because they don't change there socket type every two seconds... seriously when I brought my board there were socket 940 opterons 939 and 754 Athlons and socket A was still about.
I also didn't in hind sight do enough research (i brought it before i discovered this forum) and thought that I’d be able to go dual core when it came out.... which was scheduled to come out a few months after I brought my board, ultimately I should've waited... but I didn't...
Ultimately Hindsight is 20:20 but I’m now older and wiser and will do a total upgrade next July having done a lot more research.
Well, thinking about it, I’m more annoyed at AMD at the moment, when I brought my 939 board i thought it would be about for ages allowing me to incrementally upgrade... unfortunately this proved not to be the case.
I’m now left in an annoying situation with no upgrade path... but I’m 3 years older and for that reason likely to go Intel next time I upgrade because they don't change there socket type every two seconds... seriously when I brought my board there were socket 940 opterons 939 and 754 Athlons and socket A was still about.
I also didn't in hind sight do enough research (i brought it before i discovered this forum) and thought that I’d be able to go dual core when it came out.... which was scheduled to come out a few months after I brought my board, ultimately I should've waited... but I didn't...
Ultimately Hindsight is 20:20 but I’m now older and wiser and will do a total upgrade next July having done a lot more research.
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Yes, but thats not AMD or ABits fault is it?
Correct me if I am wrong, but when you bought that board, there was no such thing as dual core right... The general idea, at the time was also that the AMD x64 was the way to go... Right? ... So, Socket 939 was the choice to go for and you went for it. Ok, so, you chose a bad model, probably cutting corners too much. so again, this is you and not AMD or ABIT that the blame falls to.
Hell, my first X64 was a Winchester 3200 in an MSI Neo2 Platinum, that did not support dual core, ( as I found out to my horror when I paid £300 for my X2 3800 ) but after a BIOS update, it did.
If it did not, then could I blame MSI for that?
No, cos I got a cheaper board. My bad.
Correct me if I am wrong, but when you bought that board, there was no such thing as dual core right... The general idea, at the time was also that the AMD x64 was the way to go... Right? ... So, Socket 939 was the choice to go for and you went for it. Ok, so, you chose a bad model, probably cutting corners too much. so again, this is you and not AMD or ABIT that the blame falls to.
Hell, my first X64 was a Winchester 3200 in an MSI Neo2 Platinum, that did not support dual core, ( as I found out to my horror when I paid £300 for my X2 3800 ) but after a BIOS update, it did.
If it did not, then could I blame MSI for that?
No, cos I got a cheaper board. My bad.
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isnt the asus k8v, socket 754?
like i said I'm now older and wiser.... conversely i was when i brought my computer i was younger and stupider.....and brought the wrong board.... oh well come July i can rectify this... in the mean time to ebay to find an FX57.... but i do still think that AMD have a basic problem that it seems to be harder to upgrade there processors in comparison to Intel... due to having to change there sockets often to incoporate new technology while i do understand why this is... the on-board memory controller.... i think it's bad practice and this will probably influence my processor decision in the future.... also the AX8 was released about a month to two months before X2 processors.... and is the only board I've come across that will not support X2 processor with a bios upgrade.... abit even realised there mistake and shortly after the release of X2 they released the AX8 V2.
also the fact that all this happened in march ish 2005 and i got impatient and upgraded my computer for uni that I wasn't going to go to till September 05 is a testament to how impatience can screw you over...
On the upside my motherboard and processor seem to be totally bullet proof... even after i updated the heat sink and ripped the processor out of the board (it was stuck to the bottom of the heat sink when i took the stock heat sink off.....
) it still works.... perfectly (tis pants for overclocking tho'....can get at most 2.3 out of it.... it's a 3500+ a full 100mhz overclock!)
but i do still think that AMD have a basic problem that it seems to be harder to upgrade there processors in comparison to Intel... due to having to change there sockets often to incoporate new technology while i do understand why this is... the on-board memory controller.... i think it's bad practice and this will probably influence my processor decision in the future.... also the AX8 was released about a month to two months before X2 processors.... and is the only board I've come across that will not support X2 processor with a bios upgrade.... abit even realised there mistake and shortly after the release of X2 they released the AX8 V2.also the fact that all this happened in march ish 2005 and i got impatient and upgraded my computer for uni that I wasn't going to go to till September 05 is a testament to how impatience can screw you over...
On the upside my motherboard and processor seem to be totally bullet proof... even after i updated the heat sink and ripped the processor out of the board (it was stuck to the bottom of the heat sink when i took the stock heat sink off.....
) it still works.... perfectly (tis pants for overclocking tho'....can get at most 2.3 out of it.... it's a 3500+ a full 100mhz overclock!)
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dont you recall the good old days of the P4?
a new socket (prety much) for each and every single new one out. and once you look at the prescots, you sometimes needed a new board to avoid blowing up the voltage regulators. even if you had the right socket already...
also remember, amd originally planned to stick with DDR for much longer, but at the last moment chose to adopt DDR2...
so its not all green on the other side of the fence. - annnd while almost all LGA boards accept the C2D (or even C2quad) not all will be able to run the newer chips, with higher stock fsb. they should work, but at a frequency below stock (think what happened when amd moved from 100 to 133 fsb, and loads of people asked, "why does my shiney new 1.4ghz cpu only show as 1050 mhz???")
a new socket (prety much) for each and every single new one out. and once you look at the prescots, you sometimes needed a new board to avoid blowing up the voltage regulators. even if you had the right socket already...
also remember, amd originally planned to stick with DDR for much longer, but at the last moment chose to adopt DDR2...
so its not all green on the other side of the fence. - annnd while almost all LGA boards accept the C2D (or even C2quad) not all will be able to run the newer chips, with higher stock fsb. they should work, but at a frequency below stock (think what happened when amd moved from 100 to 133 fsb, and loads of people asked, "why does my shiney new 1.4ghz cpu only show as 1050 mhz???")
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You are right in a way. I think that a lot of people got caught out with the 939 thinking it would be around for some time. However, AMDs passion to keep up with the Jone's meant that they moved their K8 architecture to AM2 in favour of DDR2 which didn't really bring anthing to the table.
That said however, I got 2 years out of my 4400+ (939) and it's still a good CPU today. I've normally found that upgrading every two years means I have to upgrade both CPU and mobo anyway. It really depends on your own personal upgrade road map.