All-core (P-Core) frequencies of Alder Lake CPUs?

[g67575]

Yes, not sure where g67575 is getting the temps from.

From here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt7yWzu9EQY&t=130ov2s

Similar temps @5ghz for the 12700K and 12600K.

This is the problem with overclocking (unlocked) parts, they are designed to go beyond sensible temperature limits of ~80 Celsius. Then Intel says you shouldn't BCLK a 12400 because it's 'dangerous'.

12900 (locked) can probably do 4.9Ghz on all P-cores and keep the temps at reasonable levels, even in stressful workloads.

Thoughts - Temps on the 12600K and 12700K @5ghz might be lower with the E-Cores disabled and with hyperthreading off. This is actually the most stable configuration (for minimum frame rates) for gaming, at least according to this analysis:
https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/12900k-core-configs/summary

 

[Dallies]

From here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt7yWzu9EQY&t=130ov2s

Similar temps @5ghz for the 12700K and 12600K.

This is the problem with overclocking (unlocked) parts, they are designed to go beyond sensible temperature limits of ~80 Celsius. Then Intel says you shouldn't BCLK a 12400 because it's 'dangerous'.

12900 (locked) can probably do 4.9Ghz on all P-cores and keep the temps at reasonable levels, even in stressful workloads.

Thoughts - Temps on the 12600K and 12700K @5ghz might be lower with the E-Cores disabled and with hyperthreading off. This is actually the most stable configuration (for minimum frame rates) for gaming, at least according to this analysis:
https://kingfaris.co.uk/blog/12900k-core-configs/summary

That's probably just Intel's way of saying we don't want you overclocking our budget cpu's. Spend more on a unlocked one.

My cpu runs a bit hotter with E cores disabled! I'm guessing because Windows uses them in the background at the lower frequency.

 

[Ayahuasca]

I think people need to play around with their voltage a little more. I've seen images of 12900k's that are stock clock stable at or just below 1.2v.

 

[g67575]

How about hyperthreading? Certainty on older Intel CPUs, this makes a large difference to core temperatures, maybe 5-6 Celsius.

 

[LePhuronn]

Just because the scale of improvement with one architecture seems unrealistic to maintain long-term.

Good job AMD aren't using the same architecture then, isn't it. Zen+ was a refinement and node shrink of Zen, however Zen 2 was new. Zen 3 is a major rework of the Zen 2 principles. Zen 4 will be different again.

 

[=XDC=FluphyBunny]

Again my 12600k seems standard at 5ghz just over 150w max. Games at 60-70 degrees.

That includes 4ghz e-cores all with an old D14.

So these chips are running 5ghz and don’t need ecores switching off plus temps aren’t an issue. Watts / performance is very good and with AMD likely to move ahead with AM5 things will continue to improve.

My 12600k will last a good while for what I do but I still can’t wait to see whats available in a few years time.