All in one system
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Sony DAVDZ810 is not so bad for an all in one kit.
I much prefer a separates setup, what's your budget?
I much prefer a separates setup, what's your budget?
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tobias123 said:
I normally disagree with those that say you need to spend meg bucks to get decent kit but you need to find some more cash to get something half decent that is a tiny budget!
tobias123 said:
As they say jack of all trades, master of none.
A good quality scaling DVD-player (1080p) with HDMI is about £180. 5.1 speakers only, about £800-£1000. £350 for av amplifier.
So all of that for £170 is asking a bit much, unless you're not bothered with sound, build quality or upgradability/connectivity.
Energize said:
No it isn't. Budget in a complete 6 speakers, and £800 is budget range. Oh and don't forget amp, speaker cable, interconnects and video cable.
However if it was a £800 for a 2ch, then that would be "over the top" for a basic budget system.
I think people expect miracles out of something so cheap, what next, a 8.2 system for a tenner?
squiffy said:
I think you are being elitist there mate.
Not everyone needs expensive speakers and as has already been said, your minimum £800kit will be top range for most.
Obviously it will crap going by your definition but I doubt he'll care.
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PIONEER DCS353 for £269 - or you could prob stretch to a basic separates system for c £330 (with not great speakers)
Add £140 if you had KEF 1005's,and then from £350 upwards for good speakers packages
All av stuff suffers from price snobbery unfortunately, but the differnence between the speakers on your tv and a cheap and cheerful pioneer/sony type all in one is huge.
Add £140 if you had KEF 1005's,and then from £350 upwards for good speakers packages
All av stuff suffers from price snobbery unfortunately, but the differnence between the speakers on your tv and a cheap and cheerful pioneer/sony type all in one is huge.
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Squiffy, while you do know your stuff, can you PLEASE stop saying to people, not enough, spend 2k... when the budget is £150.
Give advice, not useless info.
Fair enough, it wont buy you a good system, but it will buy A system, and if he is happy with it, who are you to say its not "good". Its all subjective.
As i said before, if he just watches the odd dvd, and wants sound from behind him, a philips £120 speaker set, and a £60 upscaling tosh DVD player will do the job he requires.
Your methodology is the same as someone asking for a cheap pc to run MS word, and speccing them SLI setups and SCSI hard drives...
If he's bothered enough to need seperates, he KNOWS he wants seperates, not an all in one setup. If this thread was "I have a £1500 budget, recommend me some gear", your advice applies, but not here im afraid
Some people dont want, need or can't afford the best gear, and are happy to settle for a cheap system from the high street. I think it will be single percents of people who spend thousands on hi-fi gear tbh, as most people simply don't get enough use to warrant the massive expenditure.
Give advice, not useless info.
Fair enough, it wont buy you a good system, but it will buy A system, and if he is happy with it, who are you to say its not "good". Its all subjective.
As i said before, if he just watches the odd dvd, and wants sound from behind him, a philips £120 speaker set, and a £60 upscaling tosh DVD player will do the job he requires.
Your methodology is the same as someone asking for a cheap pc to run MS word, and speccing them SLI setups and SCSI hard drives...
If he's bothered enough to need seperates, he KNOWS he wants seperates, not an all in one setup. If this thread was "I have a £1500 budget, recommend me some gear", your advice applies, but not here im afraid
Some people dont want, need or can't afford the best gear, and are happy to settle for a cheap system from the high street. I think it will be single percents of people who spend thousands on hi-fi gear tbh, as most people simply don't get enough use to warrant the massive expenditure.
jellybeard999 said:Squiffy, while you do know your stuff, can you PLEASE stop saying to people, not enough, spend 2k... when the budget is £150.
Give advice, not useless info.
Fair enough, it wont buy you a good system, but it will buy A system, and if he is happy with it, who are you to say its not "good". Its all subjective.
As i said before, if he just watches the odd dvd, and wants sound from behind him, a philips £120 speaker set, and a £60 upscaling tosh DVD player will do the job he requires.
Your methodology is the same as someone asking for a cheap pc to run MS word, and speccing them SLI setups and SCSI hard drives...
If he's bothered enough to need seperates, he KNOWS he wants seperates, not an all in one setup. If this thread was "I have a £1500 budget, recommend me some gear", your advice applies, but not here im afraid
Some people dont want, need or can't afford the best gear, and are happy to settle for a cheap system from the high street. I think it will be single percents of people who spend thousands on hi-fi gear tbh, as most people simply don't get enough use to warrant the massive expenditure.
completely agree. You mentioned the tosh upscaler and some seperate speakers-can i use the tosh as an amp? or will i have to get an amp with it? to be honest one of the reasons i wanted an all in one was to minimize the number of boxes around the house!Please advise...
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To the untrained ear, you don't need a £800+ setup to be blown away.
I just got a £300 home cinema setup (Sony HTSF1000) and I am gobsmacked at how awesome it sounds.
Agree with above post, if someone is saying their budget is £200 or something, why bother telling them to spend £1k+ when really, something at £200 will probably be all they actually need. We aren't all complete audiophiles that can tell the difference between an £800 speaker setup and an £800.50 speaker setup
I just got a £300 home cinema setup (Sony HTSF1000) and I am gobsmacked at how awesome it sounds.
Agree with above post, if someone is saying their budget is £200 or something, why bother telling them to spend £1k+ when really, something at £200 will probably be all they actually need. We aren't all complete audiophiles that can tell the difference between an £800 speaker setup and an £800.50 speaker setup
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tobias - the toshiba upscaling dvd player is around £70, then youd need an amp and the speakers
id suggest NOT getting an amp and DVD player in one unit, as if one breaks, you have to replace both, and being honest, theres not going to be the reliability of seperates, plus you get better quality generally.
Philips, Sony, Panasonic etc do £120 ish kits with amp/sub in one, and the seperate sattelite speakers, Yamaha do a good one too from what i hear, though id assume theyre all about equal quality
Have a look over to www.avforums.co.uk and read around
search all in one or a model no on the forum.
make sure the amp (whatever its built into) has enough inputs for your gear (games console, dvd player etc etc)
id suggest NOT getting an amp and DVD player in one unit, as if one breaks, you have to replace both, and being honest, theres not going to be the reliability of seperates, plus you get better quality generally.
Philips, Sony, Panasonic etc do £120 ish kits with amp/sub in one, and the seperate sattelite speakers, Yamaha do a good one too from what i hear, though id assume theyre all about equal quality
Have a look over to www.avforums.co.uk and read around
search all in one or a model no on the forum.make sure the amp (whatever its built into) has enough inputs for your gear (games console, dvd player etc etc)
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It's nothing of the sort, and completly different. If someone needs a word processor then speccing SLI is useless as they will never use the features and never notice the difference.
However if they have a £100,000 audio system they will always notice the sound quality difference. It's not like the high end speakers sound identical to the HTIB.
What annoys me is people ask "what is a good HTIB for £100" the answer is none. I think it's best listen to what they expect they're getting and listen to something a little bit better.
thanks for all advise so far. OK then so if i get a cheap amp and speakers set can someone recommend some for about £120 that have decent ports at the back. Ill need dvd player, tv maybe room for a 360 too.
cheers
ps sorry about my lack of knowledge
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ps sorry about my lack of knowledge