All rounder needed

they're both on a 12-18month refresh cycle both cpu and gpu
the 670 will be bottlenecked by the q6600,
but you'll have better fps with a q6600+670 rather than a 3570+8800gt
 
Ahh ok that makes sense, I think I need to get rid of the 'must have the best' mentality and concede that in order to do that I'd be spending 1k every 12 months!

I think slowly building the spec I have now into the spec I want will land me with an awesome system capable of pretty much anything, the bigger picture doesn't matter really!

In regards to RAM, am I better off with 8GB or would I see a lot of benefit in 16GB? Going with 2x4GB sticks would give me the option to upgrade at a later date I guess?
 
sw1ft said:
Ok, will the 670 be ok on a system as old as mine? I'd have to get new monitors as well but that's inevitable really.

I guess the reason I'd be sceptical to do that is because the amount of GPUs that come out every year, it seems you can be out of date in 6 months whereas CPU and mobo choice seem to last longer, or am I wrong?
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Getting a 670 will ensure it lasts a long time no matter what system it's in. Ive got a GTX 460, been out a long while now but still play games flawlessly.

If you will have money in 6 months or so for the rest of the build, get the 670 now thne upgrade when haswell comes out.

That's another idea anyway.
 
I guess in terms of future proofing just because there are better cards out there doesn't drop the performance of the 670 or anything.

Looks like a plan for me to get the GPUs and monitors then build the rest of the system up over a while, would it be worth using the 670 and the 8800gt together? Or just buying the 670 and selling the 8800gt on? There are no performance gains in having each monitor on its own graphics card when they don't match I assume?
 
Also, what are the thoughts on haswell? From reading it doesn't seem to be so much of a performance enhancement, more an energy saving chip?

I guess in turn that could make it better for OC? I'm so out of touch with stuff like this it's unreal, is Haswell likely to mean a new socket? Or could I buy the mobo if I happen across the funds knowing it will be compatible with newer chips?
 
sw1ft said:
I guess in terms of future proofing just because there are better cards out there doesn't drop the performance of the 670 or anything.

Looks like a plan for me to get the GPUs and monitors then build the rest of the system up over a while, would it be worth using the 670 and the 8800gt together? Or just buying the 670 and selling the 8800gt on? There are no performance gains in having each monitor on its own graphics card when they don't match I assume?
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Im not sure about using them together.

I'd just sell the 8800 and get the 670.


sw1ft said:
Also, what are the thoughts on haswell? From reading it doesn't seem to be so much of a performance enhancement, more an energy saving chip?

I guess in turn that could make it better for OC? I'm so out of touch with stuff like this it's unreal, is Haswell likely to mean a new socket? Or could I buy the mobo if I happen across the funds knowing it will be compatible with newer chips?
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Not read much about it. I know it'll be a new socket though. 1150 i think. Even if its another 10% imporvement on Ivybridge atleast it will set you up for Broadwell.

Maybe im just looking to far ahead.
 
i dont think anyone knows a lot about haswell
and id for sure buy a mobo closer to the time, usually works out better

670 right now makes sense to me and a cheap ssd, would be massive performance boost :)
 
Broadwell!? I think some googling is in order!

I'll stick to more generic parts until I have the money for the mobo and CPU and see what is available/released at the time. Things like a new GPU, case, PSU, SSD etc will all be able to swap over, I'd kick myself for buying a mobo that wasn't compatible with the chip I wanted in 6 months time.

I have to say I'm amazed at how welcoming and helpful people on this forum are, I'm a member and a moderator of multiple automotive forums, some owned by uk companies, and the calibre of help is chalk and cheese in comparison to here!
 
Thanks Mei yeah I think that route is best, it keeps the system quick and usable all the time I'm upgrading as well rather than having parts laying around that I can't fit yet etc.
 
ok so my AC FP7 fan has just died so I'm going to order a couple of parts now for this, just the SSD and CPU cooler but need a hand on both really.

currently the deals are saying to go with:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 830 Desktop Series SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive - (MZ-7PC128B/WW) £79.99
1 x Gelid Tranquillo CPU Cooler (Socket 754/939/940/AM2/AM2+/AM3/LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366) £24.79
Total : £114.68 (includes shipping : £8.25).



is this going to last for the next build as well? or should I be looking at a better cooler (thermalright TS120 is out of stock, but I could get the 140 instead?)

also is this SSD good or should I look at M4/Vertex 4?

Cheers guys
 
SSD is good, I'd prefer the Coolermaster 612S. It's quiet, the fans fit very easily to the unit. This means adding a second fan is also less hassle. Both the Gelid (i own one) and the 612S come with a tube of paste which is nice. The gelid is cheaper but can only have one fan fitted :(
 
the tipping point for me was 4pin fan over the 3pin, what are your thoughts?

which would i be better of getting if i was going to use it on the 3570k? out of the coolermaster, gelid and true spirit 140?

so many questions!
 
if you dont have to get a heatsink right this moment, you shld wait till the true spirit 120 is back in stock. cheapest of the lot, but damn good performance
 
Well my fan doesn't work so I'm running passive at the moment, I can remove my OC ad hopefully it will run ok for now but I can't wait too long, by then the ssd won't be on offer either which is a shame, so it might not work out any cheaper than getting the ssd and TS140 now?
 
and finally, will fit in an Antec 900/Fractal Arc Midi? I can measure the Antec now, just need to know the full height (around 180mm if I remember correctly) but the Arc Midi I'm not sure about, as I know these things are pretty tall.
 
yes, the arc midi supports heatsinks up to 180mm
(apparently) but the ts140 is 170mm, should have enough wiggle room im guessing
 
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