All you non overclockers tell me why you don't overclock?

[OC_A64]

Overclocking aint for everyone, can totally understand why people don't want to.
It can be quite a lot of hassle, most of the time with little tangible performance increase. Unless you're watching the FPS or timing things carefully 90% of users wouldn't notice the difference.
Overclocking now is such a simple task its untrue. Plug your EPP memory into your Nvidia board, set the overclocking options to auto and bob's your mother's brother. Overclocked system in ~ 13 seconds.

Don't agree with the "free performance" side of things, some people who want to get the max from their systems spend extra to get decent memory, PSU, cooling etc.

Asking this on a computing related forum is going to generate different answers to asking say in an AV forum, a barbie forum or your local Tesco.

 

[BillytheImpaler]

The three biggest reasons I see are these:

1. The person does not have an enthusiast motherboard or has a laptop and as such overclocking options are severely limited.
2. The person does not know how to overclock and is generally afraid of breaking his or her very expensive tool.
3. The person values ease of use/silence/efficiency over performance. (As in the case of underclockers)

 

[Snapshot]

I'm curious. If you don't overclock, don;t like the idea, and never intend to... Why did you join this forum?

In my case, because I'm an OCUK customer and had a problem setting up the CPU & mobo from my latest order so it seemed the natural thing to do. This forum is a very useful source of technical info about the components that go into a PC whether it's overclocked or not.

I don't overclock because I simply don't need to. I'm not a gamer so I'm not after that last few FPS. I'm after solid 2D performance for image processing and if I find my current system no longer fast enough I'll either upgrade it or buy a complete new one. The surplus bits shuffle down and eventually a complete older-spec PC drops off the end then I sell it on.

Jonathan

 

[Tute]

Okay, time to vent.

I have owned TWO DFI Lanparty boards. We all know how amazingly they overclock, the range of settings they give. The first was Socket A, and had a TB 2600XP+ in it. The second was a Socket 754 version, and I even went to the lengths of buying a DTR mobile processor (which was very hard to source) with the full intention of overclocking.

However, I never really got around to overclocking it. I decided that it would be far easier to just leave the thing on stock speeds and carry on like that. And it was more than enough for me, but I did keep promising myself that I would overclock it, but never actually did it.

Now, here I am with a Conroe rig (E6300). And guess what? The CPU is sat at stock speeds. There is an exception with this one though. I've tried overclocking it.

I got from 1.86Ghz to just short of 2GHz. Then it was crashing and refusing to SuperPI. So I upped CPU voltage. No change. RAM voltage. No change. RAM timings. No change.

Thing about overclocking is, if you know what you're doing, it's great. If you don't, then don't bother, and don't try learning. Computers know if you're an overclocking beginner. And they just won't move far from stock settings.

I am walking, living proof of this fact.

 

[wizardmaxx]

Have u updated bios at all, cos asrocks should overclock more than that !!!

 

[easyrider]

Have u updated bios at all, cos asrocks should overclock more than that !!!

Asrocks are rubbish overclocking mobo's on the conroe platfrom up to now.


With a max overclock of 300 FSB

making a 6300 into a 6400 thats it.Thats as far as you can go with them.

 

[easyrider]

Thing about overclocking is, if you know what you're doing, it's great. If you don't, then don't bother, and don't try learning. Computers know if you're an overclocking beginner. And they just won't move far from stock settings.

I am walking, living proof of this fact.

I have never heard so much rubbish in my life lol


Your trying to clock a mobo thats not a good clocker.

300 x 7 = 2.1ghz thats as far that you will get with that mobo.

 

[Tute]

Asrocks are rubbish overclocking mobo's on the conroe platfrom up to now.


With a max overclock of 300 FSB

making a 6300 into a 6400 thats it.Thats as far as you can go with them.

It doesn't even have proper voltage selections.

With Core voltage, you have 2 choices: Auto and Normal.

With RAM voltage, you have 4 choices: Low, Medium, High, and Auto.

I mean WTF is Low, Normal, and High in terms of voltage?

This still doesn't really excuse me from not trying it with the 2600XP+ and 3400DTR though.

 

[easyrider]

It doesn't even have proper voltage selections.

With Core voltage, you have 2 choices: Auto and Normal.

With RAM voltage, you have 4 choices: Low, Medium, High, and Auto.

I mean WTF is Low, Normal, and High in terms of voltage?

This still doesn't really excuse me from not trying it with the 2600XP+ and 3400DTR though.

Its not an overclockers mobo!

 

[easyrider]

Don't agree with the "free performance" side of things, some people who want to get the max from their systems spend extra to get decent memory, PSU, cooling etc.

Is doesn't need extra money to get a

DS3
6300
and some DDR2 ram to get a 1ghz Free perfromance clock.

All that is needed is a better cooler than the stock one.


This setup will allow you to have a faster pc than a 6800 conroe costing 700 quid.

This is performance for free.

So don't get you at all lol!

 

[meansizzler]

I just started overclocking, but it is very frustratring to get a stable system, eg...FSB Increase means you have to select a stable RAM speed, Good Memory Timings, might have to Step up the PCI-E Frequency... not as easy as one thinks...of course if you have an Asus Board the "Overclocking Profile" works great, just select a percentage overclock eg.."15%" and it does everything for you..., so going form a 3GHZ to 3.45GHZ Pentium D is a easy..., if your happy running the DDR2667 you just bought at DD2R400 speeds as well as higher Memory Timings..., but for newbies thats the safest option, but if you want good memory speeds/timings like I said it gets frustrating.., just trial and error there with manual overclock and messing with voltages for which I have no clue of course having a good mobo with safety overclock features as well as CPU throttling prevents from component damage...

So far I went from 3GHZ Pentium D to 3.46GHZ.., DDR2667 running at 613MHZ, testing for 40 Minutes with Prime and runs fine..., have idle temp of 38 degrees for CPU and Mobo, and 55 Degrees at Load for CPU when Priming for 40 Minutes and 40 for Mobo, which is not bad... should have enough head room for 3.6GHZ overclock, but probably have to bumb up PCI-E Voltage which I can do, but might have to mess with CPU Voltage but have no clue about that...

So overclocking is not as simple as it seems if you want the best/stable overclocks..

 

[fini]

I like my system to run as quietly as possible and that means generating as little heat as possible - even thought about underclocking before. Certainly, the next proccessor upgrade I get will be underclocked for at least the first six months and then I'll clock it back up to its normal speeds, getting a performance boost (compared to the last six months) and hopefully not too much extra noise (the second six months will be during the winter).

fini

 

[kitten]

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So overclocking is not as simple as it seems if you want the best/stable overclocks..

If you follow the o/c guide and find the individual stable o/c's for each component: FSB, memory and CPU then it really isn't too hard.

And as for killing a CPU I have a 1Ghz TBird it's been at 1.46 Ghz for 6 years 3 of those years at 24/7 operation, same pencil mod for multi I have o/c'd every gaming system I have ever built since P133. I have never had a CPU die. Though I did kill a Tbird 900 by crushing the core. I keep it around as a reminder not to be so ham fisted

 

[lay-z-boy]

Three words, ****ing Dell motherboard

Normally i would agree but in this case im not

My m1710 has been running at stock since i got it, untill today.
I got out a few bios editors and modded a few files.
I can now proudly say my t2600 is running happily at 2.3ghz (small but still an oc) and my mobile go7900gtx runs faster than its desktop counterpart

 

[meansizzler]

find the individual stable o/c's for each component: FSB, memory and CPU

Like I said not easy, all depenedent on the memory/cpu and motherboard your using, hard to find someone with same or similar components...

 

[Northwind]

My m1710 has been running at stock since i got it, untill today.
I got out a few bios editors and modded a few files.
I can now proudly say my t2600 is running happily at 2.3ghz (small but still an oc) and my mobile go7900gtx runs faster than its desktop counterpart

Ooh. I couldn't find any info on changing the bios. Ah well, too late now, there's a DS3 in a box behind me

 

[kitten]

Like I said not easy, all depenedent on the memory/cpu and motherboard your using, hard to find someone with same or similar components...

Thinking back, I do agree. When I first started it was a matter of changing mobo jumpers that had the actual CPU speed printed under them. When I first tried overclocking proper with adjustable FSB, voltages memeory timings etc. it was confusing, scary and difficult. I find it easy now after years of practice. I often forget how hard these things were at one time.

 

[Hades]

I dont overclock as having a stable system that runs cool and quietly is better than 1-2 seconds quicker on loading times or the 2-3 more FPS in games.

But its alright on benchmarks.

True for the average person. But I'm running the kit in my sig cooler and quieter than before I overclocked it. Excessive heat (and therefore fan noise) led me to play around with watercooling. I'm now massively overclocked at 2.7ghz CPU and 610mhz GPU compared to stock 1.8ghz / 550mhz, cooler, quieter and happier. Admittedly I could have bought a faster Core Duo system for the same money as I spent on watercooling. But I feel I have invested in water: every system I upgrade to now will be cooled by this and so every system can now really be pushed without causing much noise.

 

[NachT]

I my self am a non-overclocker.

The reason I don't overlock is because, well... It seams to complicated what with changing the volts an all, I mean how do you know what voltage to put through a chip? lol

If i ever did overclock it wouldn't be extreme, maybe an extra 0.1 Ghz, and that surly wouldn't make an noticable difference in performance? >.O


/NachT

 

[FreeStream]

Is doesn't need extra money to get a

DS3
6300
and some DDR2 ram to get a 1ghz Free perfromance clock.

All that is needed is a better cooler than the stock one.


This setup will allow you to have a faster pc than a 6800 conroe costing 700 quid.

This is performance for free.

So don't get you at all lol!

Exactly, I've clocked my E6600 to over 3ghz on the stock cooler. Thats free performance for 1/3 the price.

I get 40% more performance using a 40 quid cooler.

Thats the idea of overclocking.