Alternative or Traditional news outlets?

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Just wondering what other people are using for their news source, do you stick to the traditional news outlets like the BBC, Sky, Telegraph or Independent? Or are you using the other forms, like an independent jouarnalist who using youtube or similar as their chosen delivery form of information? Or even Facebook...? I know that for some people where you get the news from can depend on whether you fall on the left or right side of politics.
For this reason i try to read news from both sides to try and obtain a balanced view. But this is also can lead warped prespecive because even both side of the news will be biased towards certain agendas, either government or for their personal use. Look at Syria for example, no one truly knows what going on there.
What i am trying to find is some good objective journalism? I have found a couple that i like but haven't found one for covers issues closer to home yet.
Anyway back to the question, what are you using for your source of information?
 
IMO you're deliberately putting yourself in a position of ignorance if you don't get your news from a range of different sources.
 
Mainly New Statesman, The Spectator, Telegraph, Guardian

However I do read some more fringe stuff because although they are agenda driven they do tend to go into details you may not see elsewhere. You just have to ignore their agendas and then try and find second sources for their material.

I would say Syria has been reported in an odd way by the mainstream. The war has been very much simplified on the 6 o'clock / TV news. But start looking at multiple sources and the rare reports from journalists actually there and you find out how different the situation is.
 
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MikeTheNative said:
I agree, that's why I get mine from Breibart, Daily Mail and Fox News.
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The only way you can get something resembling the truth is to read opposites say the guardian and daily mail and pick the facts that match.


Daily mail still has the best comments section though.

Problem is social media tends to be anecdotal, clickbait, fake news spread by bots and ignorance. At least with the mainstream sites they tend to stick to the truth because their counterparts would love to catch them in a lie and rip them to pieces.
 
I take my news from traditionally satirical outlets. The current political climate not only allows me to read up on events two week prior to them taking place with uncanny accuracy, but they are also written entertainingly.
 
I just read the occasional thread here, really. Far more entertaining.
Every news outlet is biassed and most of them take a 2-line story and pad it out with pointless details, often just saying the same thing in several different ways.

In other news, Ttaskmaster posted a thread on the OCUK forum.
The forum, which is a forum for posting posts, and of which Ttaskmaster is a member, is an internet forum where people make posts.

Ttaskmaster, who is 56 and from Scotland, said in a statement, "I just read the occasional thread here". The Staffordshire Road resident further remarked, "Every news outlet is biassed".

It's been six minutes since Ttaskmaster began his post, but already several fellow forum members at OCUK have responded with various opinions. But it remains unclear as to what exactly Ttaskmaster's motivation in posting actually was. Scientists have shown that forum posting is a form of social interaction, while studies have proven that people on the internet are highly antisocial recluses.

A spokesman from OCUK said, "Poo through the letterbox" while another forum member took up a boxing stance. Sources say that Ttaskmaster did not vote UKIP, however. The Scotsman described OCUK as, "far more entertaining".

Ttaskmaster is now expected to appear at work tomorrow morning.
 
BuffetSlayer said:
That only works on the basis that these outlets are reporting on things in the first place. Bit stuck if they are not?
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Anything "big" and they tend to both be running. Smaller pieces I'm sure you can find competing articles to compare on different sites.

Although chances of being able to find competing "kardasians latest bum pics" on the guardian may be pretty low :D.
 
Mynight said:
Anything "big" and they tend to both be running. Smaller pieces I'm sure you can find competing articles to compare on different sites.

Although chances of being able to find competing "kardasians latest bum pics" on the guardian may be pretty low :D.
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All fair points!! :p I know your last point was a joke, but I think it is most pertinent in terms of media outlets.

Just because something isn't being reported, doesen't mean it isn't happening. I think that is the crux of the OP. Kardashians ass might be getting bare and oily all over the place but your not gonna know about it unless the media outlets pick it up and present it to you! :D

Likewise if stuff is going down in Ukraine, Turkey or Syria or even the UK, the same applies. :) Plenty of newsworthy stories have been obfuscated by media in the past for one agenda or another. In real terms I think "objective" and "news" are antonyms. :)
 
BuffetSlayer said:
All fair points!! :p I know your last point was a joke, but I think it is most pertinent in terms of media outlets.

Just because something isn't being reported, doesen't mean it isn't happening. I think that is the crux of the OP. Kardashians ass might be getting bare and oily all over the place but your not gonna know about it unless the media outlets pick it up and present it to you! :D

Likewise if stuff is going down in Ukraine, Turkey or Syria or even the UK, the same applies. :) Plenty of newsworthy stories have been obfuscated by media in the past for one agenda or another. In real terms I think "objective" and "news" are antonyms. :)
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That is very true. Sadly when it's only a small time publisher or independent producing these articles it's incredibly hard, sometimes impossible to fact check them. While there are some out there that are viewed as trusted sources the vast majority are hard to distinguish what is truth and what is fake news/clickbait(well clickbait on the majority is easy to spot but not always). Sadly I think this is where Facebook and Google fact checkers are going to fall short when they finally come out.


I realise I missed the point of your previous reply sorry :(.
 
One of the other issues is the fake news what seems to be all over Facebook all the time. Like i said i try to have a balanced view on source, if i am watching ill use the BBC, Sky and sometime RT what can be very good but it also can feel like Russian propaganda at times. Print, well online these days i read the Telegraph, sometime the Times Guardian and Independent what has seem to have gone down hill recently. I have recently found Tim Pool @timecast on youtube i like it at moment.
 
The Independent is terrible now it's not a paper any more - just takes a very left leaning view on everything and tends to want to simplify everything because people are scared of reading I guess. It's basically HuffPo/Buzzfeed trying to trade off an old reputation.

The Telegraph is a bit of a joke as well, seems to be turning into the official paper of the Tory party. The Sun / Heil / Express have gone/continue to go full mental and are pretty much worthless.

The Times I find reasonable, they seem to be valuing their columnists opinions over actual news though. Could go either way, depends how much influence Murdoch tries to have over their content. See their coverage of Openreach for an example of this.

I enjoy Private Eye for the ongoing work they do exposing corruption and hypocrisy across the political class, and for covering the stories that are too much of a slow burner for an actual news organisation. They aren't really a daily news source though.
 
Try not to read much news these days, everything seems to have an agenda. And most of it's not very interesting.
Terrorist attacks and Brexit, not much else. The world is miserable enough without continuously seeing Theresa May's mug.
 
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