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I don't have any experience with room correction from major brands
Alternatives to Denon AVR-X2800H
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Not heard that, I've got a ps5, but not a new enough tv connected to it to check. What's the issue, it just doesn't work?
A black screen with VRR enabled. It seems Denon says all AVR's made after May this year have the bug fixed.
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Was that the issue where older ones had to have an external box (that denon provided free of charge) to fix?
I believe so, yes. Either that or plug directly into the TV and use earc.
dirac is better than audyssey
dirac will be most likely a £500 upgrade
Audyssey is decent. u can get an app on ur phone which unlocks a bit more functionality to fine tune the sound.
denon vs marantz
marantz will likely sound better to ur ears.
they're both average in the home AV EQ-world.
u move up a tier with arcam + anthem.. then up another couple of tiers with trinnov and lyngdorf
im currently playing with a yamaha AVR to compare to my denon and arcam. will be fun as never used them before. not heard great things but i venture it will be betetr than the low tier denons by far and probably as good as xt32.
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I think if they charge for Dirac when advertising as a feature I think they'd rub a lot of people the wrong way. I'm not saying they won't though.
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Dirac is normally a license fee paid for by the manufacturer (Dennon). Once embedded into the firmware, the end user just uses Dirac without having to pay anything.
im pretty sure you pay extra for it.
and dirac is going to come 3-6 months after release, not at launch
I appreciate the insight, thanks.
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I got the 3800h on Monday, been really impressed. Previously had a denon 2200w and feels a big upgrade. Had no issues.
Yeah, that’s what I'd seen too.
New firmware, rumoured to be around March 2023 and a paid upgrade (like D&M did for Auro-3D on some models). £500 seems to be the price of admission...
Given how upset some users got with the cost of MultEQ-X when Audyssey launched that (at around £150), it will be interesting to see how many owners actually purchase a Dirac licence, as it's not an insignificant cost. Depending on the model, it's even a large chunk of the initial purchase price.
That said, it's always good to have options and it's not as if you have to purchase it
Yeah, that’s what I'd seen too.
New firmware, rumoured to be around March 2023 and a paid upgrade (like D&M did for Auro-3D on some models). £500 seems to be the price of admission...
Given how upset some users got with the cost of MultEQ-X when Audyssey launched that (at around £150), it will be interesting to see how many owners actually purchase a Dirac licence, as it's not an insignificant cost. Depending on the model, it's even a large chunk of the initial purchase price.
That said, it's always good to have options and it's not as if you have to purchase it
Beyond that, the licence isn't transferable to a different AVR as far as I'm aware.
It would make resale interesting, finding someone willing to pay more because it has a Dirac licence.
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d that, the licence isn't transferable to a different AVR as far as I'm aware.
I wonder if it's registered to that email address, IP, ornif it detect it changes reauthorisarion with a telephone number, bank account etc?
I assume the AVR has to have an internet connection to activate the licence, so it's probably tied directly to the AVR's serial number.
I'm assuming the same. Emotiva have a similar sort of licence upgrade arrangement with two tiers of Dirac and they've confirmed neither are transferable to a new owner if you sell the unit. The new owner has to buy a licence.Beyond that, the licence isn't transferable to a different AVR as far as I'm aware.
Wait, what? It doesn't even transfer with the AVR? God damn.
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How's that work, surely you should be able to transfer the licence for your new amp if you can't sell it with it (although not sure how denon would know you've sold it).
For the people that cry about the Dirac price; they probably don’t need Dirac and multi eq will be plenty for them tbh.Yeah, that’s what I'd seen too.
New firmware, rumoured to be around March 2023 and a paid upgrade (like D&M did for Auro-3D on some models). £500 seems to be the price of admission...
Given how upset some users got with the cost of MultEQ-X when Audyssey launched that (at around £150), it will be interesting to see how many owners actually purchase a Dirac licence, as it's not an insignificant cost. Depending on the model, it's even a large chunk of the initial purchase price.
That said, it's always good to have options and it's not as if you have to purchase it
Those that want Dirac, know it’s worth the premium.
It’s the main selling point of why an arcam sells for double the price of a denon with comparable features so 500 quid ImO is not a lot, especially if it has their bass man agent which will save novices on a mini dsp