Am i in the right?

Definitely in the right, by her reasoning if you had been in a driving test you would have been expected to stop to let her friend out of the car, don't think so somehow.

Did laugh at you telling her to shut up though :)
 
Scuzi said:
Never argue with stupid people. You did the right thing by telling her to shut up. If her or her husband visit to discuss the matter, tell them to shut up again. You can use all the logic, legislation and literary finesse you want but nothing will make your point valid in their eyes. They're old. That means they're right.
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You're right. "Shut up" and "go away" are the only things to say in this situation.
 
GolfNovember90 said:
It's a bit difficult to comment without knowing the layout and size of the road but she shouldn't have parked facing against the flow of traffic, I would agree that if the road wasn't clear she shouldnt have even opened her door, and that if the road becomes unclear whilst her door is open and she is getting people out she should check what the other vehicle is doing and make sure its safe to alight.

On the other hand as the driver of the other vehicle you shouldn't assume that they know you are there, if the road ahead isn't clear you shouldn't be making progress.
If a parked car I am intending to pass has its door partially open my first thought would be "is somone going to come out of that car and do they know I am here". Given that information I would be adjusting my speed and positioning accordingly.
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I noticed the obstacle of her open door so slowed and adjusted my position, she saw me coming and actually then fully opened her door, almost trying to block me so I would have to stop, by this time I was going past her anyway and was still position further from her door, only when I passed I saw her elderly passenger.

The road is a residential one where residents park on one side so leaves room for one lane of traffic.

If she was so concerned about the old women then she should have driven the 20 yards around the corner and dropped her at her house as opposed to parking outside her own house then walking the old person home.
 
Colbaker said:
If she was so concerned about the old women then she should have driven the 20 yards around the corner and dropped her at her house as opposed to parking outside her own house then walking the old person home.
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that wouldnt happen, because her business is far more important than anyone else's business, hence shell get out the car anywhere... in exactly the same way as your business of reversing was far more important than anyone else's business (is getting in or out a car, an open door being in your way, old people etc) hence you carried on driving past

this is just one of the weird problems in essex, perfectly demonstrated in this thread
 
all followed by the "its someone else's fault" thought process, everything has to be someone elses fault, if there is blame, there is a claim, didnt you know?
 
Matt82 said:
that wouldnt happen, because her business is far more important than anyone else's business, hence shell get out the car anywhere... in exactly the same way as your business of reversing was far more important than anyone else's business (is getting in or out a car, an open door being in your way, old people etc) hence you carried on driving past

this is just one of the weird problems in essex, perfectly demonstrated in this thread
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wow generalization of Essex, I think it is a problem with Society, No one seems to have any consideration for anyone else, I am including myself in this comment, The difference is i just get on with it, I would not confront them about something that doesnt really matter.

Believe me in this as twice i have had a note from this womens husband on my car with sweary words stating i parked too close to him and it was hard for him to get his car out, the second one was facing into the windscreen and my 6 year old read it before i noticed it, Also was never too close to him by the way he got out of the space with no issue's, Parking is at a premium around here, everyone else understands apart from this guy, I didnt bring this up to him and just left it, This may have clouded my response to his wife.

If i had noticed it was an old lady i probably would have stopped to let her get out, i only noticed when driving past.

Ever actually been to Essex?
 
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How did you not bring this up with him?!
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It would have been sent straight to the police if it was me. I've had to get aggressive with a coffin dodger who was on her phone reversing into traffic on a main road who gave a load of foul abuse in front of my 5 year old son.

Im glad I called the police because she denied it, but was caught out by the fact that she was on the post office cctv. It didn't help that she had been banned from driving and was just starting her 3rd 12month ban. Guess some people never learn.
 
hurfdurf said:
How did you not bring this up with him?!
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I have to admit, Just not to cause a rift with the neighbours.

The funniest thing about it is that he had actually gone to the trouble of printing it on his printer and then cutting into a neat square to put on the windscreen, Not so much of a knee jerk reaction.
 
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Colbaker said:
Ever actually been to Essex?
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I live here. i do love the place but the typical attitude of he people does bring it down and i also think "the attitude" also contributes to what must be the worst driving standard outside of the centre of london

i dont think its as wide spread as "society" (now that is a big generalisation) ie if you go up north, or west, or anywhere outside essex, the people change, theyre more personable, less terrified to interact!
 
Matt82 said:
I live here. i do love the place but the typical attitude of he people does bring it down and i also think "the attitude" also contributes to what must be the worst driving standard outside of the centre of london

i dont think its as wide spread as "society" (now that is a big generalisation) ie if you go up north, or west, or anywhere outside essex, the people change, theyre more personable, less terrified to interact!
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Ah ok i see what your saying but do still think it is a societal shift, Everyone out for themselves at all times. it does seem to be spreading out from London though and as Essex is almost greater London then this is what will happen.
 
You're in the right. Roads are for CARS...now I mean that in the sense that a car has the right of way, you don't just open a car door onto a road with a car about to drive past.

I had a similar experience, this was a single road and a police car was in front of me...the police car pulled up on the left so I drove on the right expecting to drive past, but the police woman decided to open her door full swing. Luckily I managed to do an emergency stop and not drive through her door.

She got out, apologised for not looking. The point is though, the car has the right of way and they should look before causing traffic to slow down or alter.
 
I drive past a nursery every day on my way to work and I despair at the number of morons who park up and just fling the door open as cars are passing then stand there in the road holding a door open so there kids can get out onto the road as well.

how difficult is it to walk round the car and make your kids get out where its safe?
 
It is the responsiblity of the driver to not create hazards for other road users when they or passengers are opening and closing doors.
 
My brother had an insurance claim like this that went in his favour.

Traveling up a straight road with cars parked either side. A small break in the line of cars on the left with one of those small mini vans parked facing us. (my brother was oblivious and in a world of his own). I watched as the woman, still facing her husband chatting away pushed the door open. I also watched as the wing of our car also slammed it shut (quicker than I could tell my brother to stop).

Her husband got out f'ing and blinding etc and effectively told us to just get out of his sight. Then he wasn't happy with the hinges on his door and wanted our details. Also threatening us didn't help. They had just come back from holiday in preparation for his wife's 'eye surgery'.

Needless to say the claim went in our favour. Your neighbour is in the wrong.
 
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