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AM5 - Good budget CPU for Gaming

I'd say it's worth it at that point too, even for gaming.

The difference in FPS on average between the two is around 5%, however there is the odd title that can see as much as 20-30% uplift such as Assetto Corsa. Obviously for other workloads there's some nice uplift there to boot, as long as you're willing to import I'd say the only 7000 series chip still worth buying specifically for gaming, is the 7600X3D which is a very strong offering for under £280.
The 7600X3D is a good shout, but as you say, it means upgrading the platform which then makes it more money, and at that point, you're spiralling down the path of saving even more money to get a 7800X3D so you don't upgrade yet again a year later etc etc. It's a dangerous rabbit hole haha!
 
The 7600X3D is a good shout, but as you say, it means upgrading the platform which then makes it more money, and at that point, you're spiralling down the path of saving even more money to get a 7800X3D so you don't upgrade yet again a year later etc etc. It's a dangerous rabbit hole haha!

Yup.

The biggest selling point of platforms like AM4/AM5 is the longevity and upgrade potential, I don't see a point in neutering that with a full platform shift. If the OP was buying a 4090 or 5090 then sure, I'd probably recommend moving to AM5, but there's still more than enough grunt left in AM4 to handle a mid range GPU like the 9060XT, or frankly anything up to the 5080 in most scenarios.
 
its news to me that there is only £20 difference between a 7600x and 9600x

i would have expected more of a gap

last week i got my son a 7700x for £160, when looking for CPU's my first point of call was a 7600x, and on my search i missed a 9600x for £140 i was gutted.
after looking about i settled on the 7700x after buying it another 9600x sold for £140... again a little pee'ed off that i missed it..

but if you go to the bay.. and look at sold listing's you will always find one that sold for £300 and one that sold for 50p hahah, but if you take your time to look £140 to £150 is the average price.
a 9600x for say £145 is a little ripper of a CPU
 
Yup.

The biggest selling point of platforms like AM4/AM5 is the longevity and upgrade potential, I don't see a point in neutering that with a full platform shift. If the OP was buying a 4090 or 5090 then sure, I'd probably recommend moving to AM5, but there's still more than enough grunt left in AM4 to handle a mid range GPU like the 9060XT, or frankly anything up to the 5080 in most scenarios.
I am in total agreement with everything that you say mate. I'd rather squeeze more out of the AM4 than shift platforms. Plus we know a 4090 plays nice with a 5800X3D for example, so a 5700X3D and a lower tier card will be a wicked combo!
 
The 7600X3D is a good shout, but as you say, it means upgrading the platform which then makes it more money, and at that point, you're spiralling down the path of saving even more money to get a 7800X3D so you don't upgrade yet again a year later etc etc. It's a dangerous rabbit hole haha!

depending on the resolution its not... a well tuned 9700x is withing 5-10% of a 9800x3d and can be had used for a steal
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also your talking about a £300 CPU to match a £250 GPU...
7600x/9600x is what he should be getting, they will last another GPU upgrade based on the level he's looking at
 
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depending on the resolution its not... a well tuned 9700x is withing 5-10% of a 9800x3d and can be had used for a steal
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The thing is, even with tuning when it comes to games that appreciate the L3 cache it'll still be miles ahead. It can be quite situational, it's why it's important to get an idea of what a person tends to play. Then there's the need to factor in that not everyone has the ability or desire to deal with getting the most out of a CPU, or is willing to buy second hand or import due to the lack of warranty.

If for purely gaming I'd opt for the 7600X3D if within budget every time when buying new or within the UK, the 9600 if the budget is a bit more tight, and if it's really damn tight and there's no upgrade potential in existing hardware a 7400/7500/7600.
 
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depending on the resolution its not... a well tuned 9700x is withing 5-10% of a 9800x3d and can be had used for a steal
EDIT(4k/1440p)

also your talking about a £300 CPU to match a £250 GPU...
7600x/9600x is what he should be getting, they will last another GPU upgrade based on the level he's looking at
For some reason tonight I had it in my head he was getting a 9070XT, so that's my mistake - must be the heat :cry:

Are you referring to an overclocked 9700X? How is it that close to an 9800X3D? Why does no-one else do this instead of 7800X3D/9800X3D then? Genuinely never heard of this being a thing? Not doubting you, just intrigued considering the cache difference?
Is this comparison based on the same principle that at 4K a 5800X isn't far off a 5800X3D, because at 4K the CPU doesn't matter as much?

I get what you're saying, but we all know that a 5700X3D-5800X3D plays very nicely with 4080-4090 though, so he can't loose either way. I'd rather £170-200 on a 5700X3D and not have to change motherboard/ram, thus incurring even more money, he may as well jump ship to AM5/6 at a later date. By then the secondhand market for AM5 will be crazy good as AM6 will be soon on the way.
 
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I get what you're saying, but we all know that a 5700X3D-5800X3D plays very nicely with 4080-4090.

For a mid range card, even a £80-100 AMD 5600 sees very healthy uplift over a 3600, you don't need to go balls to the wall with a 5700X3D.


Huge difference at 1080P.
 
For a mid range card, even a £80-100 AMD 5600 sees very healthy uplift over a 3600, you don't need to go balls to the wall with a 5700X3D.


Huge difference at 1080P.
Yep, or a 5700X is a great budget shout secondhand, 65W, runs cool and quiet, and 8 cores if that floats your boat.
 
If you already have the AM4 parts, go with the 5700X3D. I did, and it's amazing. Wait out another few years and AM6 will release. If you want something cheaper, the 5700X is usually available at a great price right now. Put the saved money towards the GPU and enjoy! AM5 is a great platform, but considering the price you're going to have to pay for a new mobo and RAM, that doesn't make sense if you're budget-constrained and already have an AM4 system.
 
If you already have the AM4 parts, go with the 5700X3D. I did, and it's amazing. Wait out another few years and AM6 will release. If you want something cheaper, the 5700X is usually available at a great price right now. Put the saved money towards the GPU and enjoy! AM5 is a great platform, but considering the price you're going to have to pay for a new mobo and RAM, that doesn't make sense if you're budget-constrained and already have an AM4 system.
Yep, so you've literally done what I suggested previously. Nice :)
I get what you're saying, but we all know that a 5700X3D-5800X3D plays very nicely with 4080-4090 though, so he can't loose either way. I'd rather £170-200 on a 5700X3D and not have to change motherboard/ram, thus incurring even more money, he may as well jump ship to AM5/6 at a later date. By then the secondhand market for AM5 will be crazy good as AM6 will be soon on the way.
 
Yeah, I am very happy with it! The only sad part is it seems to be going up in price. I got mine for about maybe 120 pounds last year. Now it seems the 5700X is getting heavily discounted, though.
Ah that's great to here dude! I'm pleased for you! It's a solid solution, and breathes life into the old girl once more! That's a great price too, lucky git!
 
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