AM5 Slow Boot times

weyland yutani

weyland yutani

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Since building a new AM5 system couple of months ago (7600X, Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX, 32GB DDR5, WD NVMe 1TB) the boot times have been incredibly slow, much slower than even my previous intel 2500K build.

On every cold boot up, the system performs a memory training cycle (RAM diagnostic leds are on) meaning I don't even see the motherboard splash screen for about 35 seconds. This is with the ram's Expo profile applied which sets the speed to 6000MHz CL38. There is a setting in the bios (Memory Context Restore) which help alleviate this but it causes instability, app crashes and even the odd bsod in windows.

It seems this is fairly common based on google searches but I was wondering if people here are experiencing it. I'm still on the original bios but dont want to update bios at the moment if it wont help this issue. Is there hope that future bios development will fix it?
 
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Have you installed any old HHDs you had? I noticed my 3950x booted faster when it was just the nvme, when i added my HDDs booting slowed down quite a bit.
 
Slow boot up only occurs every 10-14 days with the memory set to default speeds but every time when Expo profile is applied. I do have two HDDs in the system, will try without them.

Enabling "Memory Context Restore" in bios does speed things up but its not worth it for the system instability.

I'l put up with it for now and try future bios versions.
 
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That's my drive too :) My ram is TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz

From the moment I hit the power button to seeing windows desktop is about 58 seconds :rolleyes: (about 35 seconds no video signal before the mobo Aorus logo appears)

I do have windows fast start up disabled though, it always causes error reports of incorrect shutdown, even on other systems I have.
 
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The Windows fast startup won't make much of a difference, it sounds more like POST is holding it back if it takes more than 30 seconds for anything to display on screen.

Do you have fast boot enabled in the BIOS settings?
 
Just turned on my pc now and it felt like even longer than usual to reach windows. I should have done more research before my upgrade. If I had known this was an issue with amd I'd have gone intel
 
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weyland yutani said:
Just turned on my pc now and it felt like even longer than usual to reach windows. I should have done more research before my upgrade. If I had known this was an issue with amd I'd have gone intel
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Intel isn't much better. Or certainly in my case running a 13900ks and apex board.

What does your "Last Bios time" state in task manager?

On my 5950x system I'd have about 7 seconds, now it shows 17 seconds so over double.

From research it seems to be a DDR5 issue, both AMD and Intel take far longer to boot than the previous DDR4 boards.
 
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ChocAndGray said:
Intel isn't much better. Or certainly in my case running a 13900ks and apex board.

What does your "Last Bios time" state in task manager?

On my 5950x system I'd have about 7 seconds, now it shows 17 seconds so over double.

From research it seems to be a DDR5 issue, both AMD and Intel take far longer to boot than the previous DDR4 boards.
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Yea I think it's a ddr5 thing. An overclocking ddr5 thing to be specific, ain't it?

Anyways after I installed the latest bios I swear it went away or I don't notice it or something idk. But then I generally just right click -> sleep when I'm going afk for the day or work or whatever. Is there some drawback to sleep that other people don't do it?
 
ChocAndGray said:
Intel isn't much better. Or certainly in my case running a 13900ks and apex board.

What does your "Last Bios time" state in task manager?
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In task manager it states about 34 seconds on a slow boot up. Actual time from power on to desktop is more like a minute though. At default memory speeds it states around 12-15 seconds, which still seems slow to be honest.
 
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weyland yutani said:
In task manager it states about 34 seconds on a slow boot up. Actual time from power on to desktop is more like a minute though. At default memory speeds it states around 12-15 seconds, which still seems slow to be honest.
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From what I've seen online not many have much faster with regards to "last bios time".

I spent days trying to fix it, turning different stuff off, disconnecting any usb/external devices.

I removed m.2 storage drives to see if that had an effect and even in desperation fresh installed windows 10 to see if there were any improvements (running 11 normally) and nada.

Nothing has helped so far.

I'll be keeping an eye on this thread incase anyone posts something that works.
 
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weyland yutani said:
Just turned on my pc now and it felt like even longer than usual to reach windows. I should have done more research before my upgrade. If I had known this was an issue with amd I'd have gone intel
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It's definitely not a wide issue with AMD. My specs are close to yours and mine will load to desktop in about 15-20 seconds.

I don't necessarily think the quicker boot times mean that you can get to the login screen quicker, but after logging on (assuming you've not gone afk during boot) windows has finished loading everything as opposed to still starting stuff up.
 
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Slow boot up only occurs every 10-14 days with the memory set to default speeds but every time when Expo profile is applied. I do have two HDDs in the system, will try without them.

Enabling "Memory Context Restore" in bios does speed things up but its not worth it for the system instability.

I'l put up with it for now and try future bios versions.
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I remember doing this a short while ago and improved things no end.
 
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