Amber Rudd fails to understand the internet

adolf hamster · 26 Mar 2017 at 16:14

ChroniC said:
It was a very simply put statement. Why put so much of a strain on our civil liberties based on thing that doesnt cause that much of a problem.

that's true, for example there's the ol' statistic of suicide rates vs terrorism rates in paris, and how even when the gunmen were still running loose you were 400x more likely to be killed by yourself than by a terrorist....

APM · 26 Mar 2017 at 16:28

I read a study from an Oxford Uni recently that said you are 11 times more likely to be killed by a policeman than a terrorist.

Due mainly to the fact that there are so many more police about compared to terrorists. Also something to do with the way the police can drive and the perils of being over-zealously restrained by the aforementioned bobby or two.

I think there is a serious possibility that we would have better government in this country if we randomly chose the PM and cabinet in a lottery every few years.

Sliver · 26 Mar 2017 at 16:30

Mr Jack said:
Dear god.

Praise Jebus. Shalom, Shalom.

Pawnless Endgame · 26 Mar 2017 at 16:49

The more the state heads towards 1984, the more I think that it's THEM who are carrying out the muslamic terrorist attacks to further their agenda.

Mr Jack · 26 Mar 2017 at 17:05

ltron said:
It's Amber Rudd, but I digress

Gah! My bad.

G-MAN2004 · 26 Mar 2017 at 17:07

Pawnless Endgame said:
The more the state heads towards 1984, the more I think that it's THEM who are carrying out the muslamic terrorist attacks to further their agenda.

Whilst that's obviously extreme tin foil hat stuff, I doubt there's much stopping them if they really wanted to... Money and power over everything with these people.

Tom_ed1987 · 26 Mar 2017 at 17:15

Government + anything to do with the internet = :rolleyes:

adolf hamster · 26 Mar 2017 at 17:23

G-MAN2004 said:
Whilst that's obviously extreme tin foil hat stuff, I doubt there's much stopping them if they really wanted to... Money and power over everything with these people.

Yes i do wonder sometimes why we havent figured out yet that politicians aren't the sort of people you should be giving power to.

V F · 26 Mar 2017 at 17:26

Tom_ed1987 said:
Government + anything to do with the internet =

The same Government that loses laptops and classified discs and disks on trains, taxis and posting classified stuff through Royal Mail?

Pawnless Endgame · 26 Mar 2017 at 17:31

G-MAN2004 said:
Whilst that's obviously extreme tin foil hat stuff, I doubt there's much stopping them if they really wanted to... Money and power over everything with these people.

Granted I was a bit OTT there, the whole things still smacks of Nanny May. Her new nickname I saw on Encyclopaedia Dramatica today

Felon · 26 Mar 2017 at 17:54

datalol-jack said:
In the UK, the Parliament giveth and taketh away, as far as rights go. You do realise that in two years' time, May will be completely free to introduce a British Bill of Rights - her Home Office dream - and redefine privacy to suit? This was always doable of course, but for now Brexit talks and potential IndyRef 2 take priority.

You're probably more qualified than me to discuss it, however - my understanding is that Parliament can indeed giveth and taketh away as they wish, and they do this all day long as a matter of routine, however I *thought* that the Supreme Court was in ultimate control, in that it can "strike down" anything passed by parliament... however I'm struggling to find whether I'm right or wrong on this,

Rroff · 26 Mar 2017 at 17:57

APM said:
I think there is a serious possibility that we would have better government in this country if we randomly chose the PM and cabinet in a lottery every few years.

The other problem is we are largely restricted to voting the same people back into power, spoilt ballot, etc. doesn't really do anything. Be interesting to see what would happen if there was a vote entry for "I don't believe this is working" rather than a political party and force some kind of upheaval of our political system.

adolf hamster · 26 Mar 2017 at 18:01

Rroff said:
The other problem is we are largely restricted to voting the same people back into power, spoilt ballot, etc. doesn't really do anything. Be interesting to see what would happen if there was a vote entry for "I don't believe this is working" rather than a political party and force some kind of upheaval of our political system.

i guess if we all voted mrlp? vote of confidence in a self confessed bunch of loonies over the in denial loonies

Mynight · 26 Mar 2017 at 18:02

Rroff said:
The other problem is we are largely restricted to voting the same people back into power, spoilt ballot, etc. doesn't really do anything. Be interesting to see what would happen if there was a vote entry for "I don't believe this is working" rather than a political party and force some kind of upheaval of our political system.

That was UKIP wasn't it?

Would be quite interesting to see if there was an option as such.

nitram100 · 26 Mar 2017 at 18:06

Mr Jack said:
The Home Secretary

Thought Theresa May was still home secretary

Akagi · 26 Mar 2017 at 18:10

nitram100 said:
Thought Theresa May was still home secretary

No, unfortunately she is the Prime Minister now.

Duke · 26 Mar 2017 at 18:10

scorza said:
Didn't Amber Rudd support remain in the referendum campaign?

Whats the relevance of that?

Arazi · 26 Mar 2017 at 18:22

Pawnless Endgame said:
The more the state heads towards 1984, the more I think that it's THEM who are carrying out the muslamic terrorist attacks to further their agenda.

There are times i think that some of these things seem to be allowed to happen.

e: I include Europe and elsewhere in the above.

dowie · 26 Mar 2017 at 18:29

Mr Jack said:
“What I’m saying is the best people who understand the technology, who understand the necessary hashtags to stop this stuff even being put up, not just taking it down, are going to be them. That’s why I would like to have an industry-wide board set up where they do it themselves.”

Necessary hashtags

Dear god.

she clearly needs someone to write a GUI in Visual Basic to track the terrorist's IP address:

Akagi · 26 Mar 2017 at 18:32

I can't watch that. The cringe is too much.