AMD 3500 vs. Opty UP 144

Goody_GTI · 7 Apr 2006 at 17:50

Hi all,

I have a 3500+ newcastle core cpu (130nm chip) currently running at 2.5ghz and was wondering if i would see a noticable performance increase if i were to get a opty up 144 instead (as they are on offer in this week only

) and then sell my 3500+??

I will definately be wanting to overclock it, preferably over 2.6ghz - is this possible??

plus with my 3500 being a 130nm chip it runs very warm, late 50s under load which im not too happy about!

suggestions please

Ladforce · 7 Apr 2006 at 18:11

you may get 100-200 mhz more, maybe even higher but is it worth the gamble? you may end up with a chip performing worse. It will run cooler though as the opterons are 90nm. I would just hang on and not upgrade till the new sockets/chips come out then decide what you want to do. In the mean time i would say your 3500 @ 2.5 is ample

Goody_GTI · 7 Apr 2006 at 18:32

Even if i could get the "upgrade" for not much by selling mine like i said?

I intend to get a whole new system this summer anyway so it was just an idea to have a new cpu to play with

overclock it and see what i could get out of it! my 3500 hits a brick wall @ 2.6 btw, and dont know whether just for the fact that it would run a lot cooler would be worth it?

Ladforce · 7 Apr 2006 at 18:44

well if your not going to lose out much on the swap id go for it

even if you can only get 2.5 from the new one youll still benefit from the extra cache on the opteron. + its always fun getting a new cpu to overclock especially if you can push it to the high 2s

Jimi · 7 Apr 2006 at 18:50

Go for it if you really want to. Once you get your new setup you can always sell the 144 and would probably recoup most of what you spent on it originally.

Goody_GTI · 7 Apr 2006 at 19:07

How much roughly do you think i would get for my 3500??

Jimi · 7 Apr 2006 at 19:09

Dunno, maybe a little less than £100 on Ebay.

EDIT: Just been looking at some prices on Ebay and I'd say between £50 and £100.

Goody_GTI · 7 Apr 2006 at 19:33

Jimi said:
Dunno, maybe a little less than £100 on Ebay.

EDIT: Just been looking at some prices on Ebay and I'd say between £50 and £100.

cool cheers mate, i reckon i might go for it, put it on ebay and if i get towards a 100 for it then spend a bit extra and get the opty!

just been checking that my mobo supports a high fsb because the opty 144 has a x9 multiplier right?? it seemed ok at 280fsb so i'l get at least 2.5ghz if it is also a good chip - does anyone else have an asus a8n sli dlx mobo and high a high fsb?

Chandler_90 · 7 Apr 2006 at 20:02

goody_106 said:
cool cheers mate, i reckon i might go for it, put it on ebay and if i get towards a 100 for it then spend a bit extra and get the opty!

just been checking that my mobo supports a high fsb because the opty 144 has a x9 multiplier right?? it seemed ok at 280fsb so i'l get at least 2.5ghz if it is also a good chip - does anyone else have an asus a8n sli dlx mobo and high a high fsb?

U on MSN mate?

Edit - Also I got a price check on mm about a 3500+ newcastle and apparently a guy sold one for £80 not long ago..

Therefore if you do stick it on the bay then u probably will get at least that..

Jimi · 7 Apr 2006 at 20:12

goody_106 said:
cool cheers mate, i reckon i might go for it, put it on ebay and if i get towards a 100 for it then spend a bit extra and get the opty!

just been checking that my mobo supports a high fsb because the opty 144 has a x9 multiplier right?? it seemed ok at 280fsb so i'l get at least 2.5ghz if it is also a good chip - does anyone else have an asus a8n sli dlx mobo and high a high fsb?

Your going to need a CPU before you sell your 3500 aren't you?

WatchTower · 7 Apr 2006 at 22:45

Surely for the little difference you'd get you may as well stick with your 3500 and save for a 170 opty. Thats what I would do.

Ladforce · 7 Apr 2006 at 23:03

a 170 opty is quite a bit more than a 144 though... would be better though no doubt but depends on the budget i guess.

Goody_GTI · 8 Apr 2006 at 12:19

Chandler_90 said:
U on MSN mate?

Edit - Also I got a price check on mm about a 3500+ newcastle and apparently a guy sold one for £80 not long ago..

Therefore if you do stick it on the bay then u probably will get at least that..

yes mate [email protected]

does anyone also think that the larger l2 cache willm benefit me?

Goody_GTI · 8 Apr 2006 at 12:20

Jimi said:
Your going to need a CPU before you sell your 3500 aren't you?

yes i was intending on buying the opty before selling mine...? which was why i was after opinions

Mikey1280 · 8 Apr 2006 at 12:41

There was a post on here the other day about someone in a similar situation deciding whether it was worth going from their opteron 170 to a 175. They bought the 175 tested it and it clocked to a similar speed or slightly lower so they cleaned it up and sent it back under the distance selling act (I think that's what its called).

Goody_GTI · 8 Apr 2006 at 12:46

Mikey1280 said:
There was a post on here the other day about someone in a similar situation deciding whether it was worth going from their opteron 170 to a 175. They bought the 175 tested it and it clocked to a similar speed or slightly lower so they cleaned it up and sent it back under the distance selling act (I think that's what its called).

i dont understand do you mean buy the processor and then if it doesnt clock very well send it back?

Jimi · 8 Apr 2006 at 13:14

goody_106 said:
i dont understand do you mean buy the processor and then if it doesnt clock very well send it back?

Yes, use the distance selling act. But if you get an Opteron 170, you shouldn't have too many problems getting a good overclock out of it.

Goody_GTI · 8 Apr 2006 at 13:22

whats this distance selling act all about then?! lol never heard of it... does it mean i could return it in a certain amount of time or something?

Jimi · 8 Apr 2006 at 13:30

goody_106 said:
whats this distance selling act all about then?! lol never heard of it... does it mean i could return it in a certain amount of time or something?

Yes, aslong as you haven't damaged the product or it's packaging then you can send it back within a certain amount of time. Not sure what the time frame is though, seven or ten days I think.

Goody_GTI · 8 Apr 2006 at 13:35

cool thats always an option, also just out of interest are the venus cored 146's any good?