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AMD 3800+ to Core 2 Duo E6320

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My current rig is -

AMD X2 3800+ @ 2.7
2gig Corsair XMS3200
DFI Lanparty Ultra-D

Building -

New rig -
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 "LGA775 Conroe"
Noctua NH-U12F (Socket LGA775/754/939/940/AM2) Heatsink
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Dual Channel Kit
Gigabyte GA_P35C_DS3R

Will I see a nice improvement?

I currently have an ATI X1900XT 512mb but I will upgrade that towards October time for my birthday and hopefully some good games are out :)
 
I went from an X2 3800 @ 2.8 to an E6600 @ 3.3 and windows feels snappier, although it does not boot quite as fast as the amd did (note: meer seconds difference), I think it was worth the move, for future upgrades but for general use, not!
 
I went from an Opteron 170 @ 2.8Ghz to an E6600 @ 3.2 Ghz.

Performance difference is far from breathtaking tbh.
Windows is more sluggish than the AMD, and the gaming/encoding speed improvements are nothing to write home about.

In hindsight I should have stuck with what I had until the newer chips come out later this year that will probably make a real difference.

But I got sucked into the hype like everyone else. :(
 
I have seen a mssive difference in going from an x24400 stock to a core 2 duo at 3.1. 3dmark/windows navigating/games. everything has seen a big performance boost.
 
tweakinfreak said:
My current rig is -

AMD X2 3800+ @ 2.7
2gig Corsair XMS3200
DFI Lanparty Ultra-D

Building -

New rig -
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 "LGA775 Conroe"
Noctua NH-U12F (Socket LGA775/754/939/940/AM2) Heatsink
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Dual Channel Kit
Gigabyte GA_P35C_DS3R

Will I see a nice improvement?

I currently have an ATI X1900XT 512mb but I will upgrade that towards October time for my birthday and hopefully some good games are out :)


wait for the cheap quads
 
MeatLoaf said:
Even in gaming you'll notice a difference even tho youre keeping the same gfx card :)


Sorry I was referring to the quad core comment...


Stuff should with all here next week I hope :)

I can always upgrade to a quad later this year I suppose
 
tweakinfreak said:
My current rig is -

AMD X2 3800+ @ 2.7
2gig Corsair XMS3200
DFI Lanparty Ultra-D

Building -

New rig -
Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 "LGA775 Conroe"
Noctua NH-U12F (Socket LGA775/754/939/940/AM2) Heatsink
Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Dual Channel Kit
Gigabyte GA_P35C_DS3R

Will I see a nice improvement?

I currently have an ATI X1900XT 512mb but I will upgrade that towards October time for my birthday and hopefully some good games are out :)

Hey mate... i am in a similar situation!

have the same as you, except my mobo is an asus a8n sli deluxe!

I want exactly what you want, the mobo, ram, cpu :D (maybe lower end cpu, on e of the 2*** series)

Also want to justify my purchase.... i have a feeling it would be a good idea as the C2D's fly and can easily clock to 3Ghz...

Im trying my best to make my upgrade happen... think its a good idea!

Craig!! :P
 
Well in 6 months or so my current kit will be worth a lot less so thats partly the reason I'm shifting it now and upgrading, the board supports DDR3 which isn't fast atm but will soon be better, and also I can throw a Q**** chip in there if need be :)

RAM cost at the moment is very cheap for good clocking RAM so.........thats my reasons.........

Plus I love an upgrade as much as the next bloke! :D
 
Alex UK said:
Yes, you'll see a huge improvement. Massive overclocking potential, and it will blow your old PC away. Enjoy.


complete and utter tosh. its this kind of thing that causes people to simply throw their cash away.

99% of games available are limited by gpu power alone, the res and framerate you play it is determined by your gpu. a x2 3800+ even at stock is more than enough to supply a 8800gtx in high res gaming and you would only see a difference in framerate(as in more than 2-3% difference) if you were playing at a lower res than your gpu is capable of, but at that point, you shouldn't have paid for a 8800gtx if you're playing below its res.

i can't name a single game where you can be CPu limited AND high framerates are needed. the few games that are cpu limited, sup commanded, couple of other RTS's and a couple of flight sims simply aren't 60fps needing games. they are slow and anything above 20fps is fine for those. they are essentially huge database games(rts's) running mulitple physics modules for all the units all the time and all the trajectorys of weapons and so on, damage models and thats why they run slower. but as rts's graphically aren't challenging and don't move fast at all its completely unimportant. also a x2 3800+ is more than enough to get decent framerates on those games also.

while 3dmark and stuff might get a boost, thats because they test the cpu and score it better if its faster.

windows shouldn't really feel any better, windows works well on a single core really, gaming feels better on a dual core because the few bits in background can be offloaded but you have that already. there is NO DOUBT a conroe is a much better cpu, it IS faster clock for clock and they do clock higher more easily, but 99.9% of users simply don't do anything intensive with their cpu's. gaming is allllll gpu, encoding almost no one does. WMP will use 5% of a conroe or 8% of a x2 3800+, high def will use 25% on a conroe and 40% on a x2. firefox will use 5% of either.

you can also get £60 am2 cpu's now that use a decent amount less power than conroe's, and still hit 3Ghz, possibly more, those are insanely cost effective cpu's, and probably hit 3Ghz and be faster than the low end conroe's. because getting a low end 6/7 multiplier conroe beyond 3Ghz isn't very easy at all.

my advice, don't upgrade till the new amd stuff comes out at the very least so you can see which is better, get some price competition going between the companies and choose a cost effective path should you need to upgrade. but if gaming is what you do most, then put the money to far better use on a higher end gfx card when newer games come out.

EDIT:- your kits worth honestly, very little now and won't drop in value a huge amount in the next 6 months. but its perfectly good kit.

ddr2 prices shouldn't go up much, and the difference between ddr3/ddr2 won't be huge for a long time. even if it was massively faster, a £55 crucial 2gig ddr2 kit will still only be 3-4% slower than the best fsb with the best ddr3.

spend money on graphics, then, if games start to require better cpu's look to upgrade the rest then.

upgrading now or soon to a conroe board and you might be mighty peeved as a quad core K10 is almost certainly going to be faster than a kentsfield or penryn. the only question is cost, £160-170 for a quad core Q6600 is going to be a killer price. but i'm not sure how many will be available, sounds like a getting rid of old stock before penryn is out type of tactic. you never know though.
 
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I went from from a X2 3800+ @ 2.5 to an E6420 @ 3.2. Frankly stick with what you have. If you want a boost to gaming and windows etc get another hard drive and go raid 0. Massive 'real feel' performance boost for next to nothing.
 
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Thanks for the post drunkenmaster!!

Wise words there....


As for the RAID0 I had that before and it went pete tong and I lost data so I won't be going that route again unless I have some sort of external storage backup running!

Now I need to think over my plans........hmmmmm
 
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tweakinfreak said:
Thanks for the post drunkenmaster!!

Wise words there....


As for the RAID0 I had that before and it went pete tong and I lost data so I won't be going that router again unless I have some sort of external storage backup running!

Now I need to think over my plans........hmmmmm

If you want to listen to him be my guest. But going from my x2 4400 system to the one i have now in my sig has seen a huge perfromance hike in games especially in oblivion. Sure average frames arent much higher but boy is it smoother all round with much higher minimum and maximium rates. Walking around towns with everything on max with lots of characters would slowdown a lot on my old system. With the e6320 overclocked, i get NON of the slowdown i was getting before. Windows seems quicked,3dmark score has gone up 40-50%, stalker performance is better,supreme commander performance is better.I'm loving it.

I really do think i needed a core 2 duo at high clocks to get the best out of my gtx.

But this is just my experience :)
 
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drunkenmaster said:
complete and utter tosh. its this kind of thing that causes people to simply throw their cash away.

99% of games available are limited by gpu power alone, the res and framerate you play it is determined by your gpu. a x2 3800+ even at stock is more than enough to supply a 8800gtx in high res gaming and you would only see a difference in framerate(as in more than 2-3% difference) if you were playing at a lower res than your gpu is capable of, but at that point, you shouldn't have paid for a 8800gtx if you're playing below its res.

i can't name a single game where you can be CPu limited AND high framerates are needed. the few games that are cpu limited, sup commanded, couple of other RTS's and a couple of flight sims simply aren't 60fps needing games. they are slow and anything above 20fps is fine for those. they are essentially huge database games(rts's) running mulitple physics modules for all the units all the time and all the trajectorys of weapons and so on, damage models and thats why they run slower. but as rts's graphically aren't challenging and don't move fast at all its completely unimportant. also a x2 3800+ is more than enough to get decent framerates on those games also.

while 3dmark and stuff might get a boost, thats because they test the cpu and score it better if its faster.

windows shouldn't really feel any better, windows works well on a single core really, gaming feels better on a dual core because the few bits in background can be offloaded but you have that already. there is NO DOUBT a conroe is a much better cpu, it IS faster clock for clock and they do clock higher more easily, but 99.9% of users simply don't do anything intensive with their cpu's. gaming is allllll gpu, encoding almost no one does. WMP will use 5% of a conroe or 8% of a x2 3800+, high def will use 25% on a conroe and 40% on a x2. firefox will use 5% of either.

you can also get £60 am2 cpu's now that use a decent amount less power than conroe's, and still hit 3Ghz, possibly more, those are insanely cost effective cpu's, and probably hit 3Ghz and be faster than the low end conroe's. because getting a low end 6/7 multiplier conroe beyond 3Ghz isn't very easy at all.

my advice, don't upgrade till the new amd stuff comes out at the very least so you can see which is better, get some price competition going between the companies and choose a cost effective path should you need to upgrade. but if gaming is what you do most, then put the money to far better use on a higher end gfx card when newer games come out.

EDIT:- your kits worth honestly, very little now and won't drop in value a huge amount in the next 6 months. but its perfectly good kit.

ddr2 prices shouldn't go up much, and the difference between ddr3/ddr2 won't be huge for a long time. even if it was massively faster, a £55 crucial 2gig ddr2 kit will still only be 3-4% slower than the best fsb with the best ddr3.

spend money on graphics, then, if games start to require better cpu's look to upgrade the rest then.

upgrading now or soon to a conroe board and you might be mighty peeved as a quad core K10 is almost certainly going to be faster than a kentsfield or penryn. the only question is cost, £160-170 for a quad core Q6600 is going to be a killer price. but i'm not sure how many will be available, sounds like a getting rid of old stock before penryn is out type of tactic. you never know though.

Well ive just done the upgrade and seen a whole world of difference thankyou very much.
 
do people think that windows feels faster in c2d against their old systems is anything to do with it being a fresh install? I've been thinking of upgrading my opty 17o but I think ill wait fornthe new amd stuff to arrive before I do anything
 
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