AMD 600 Series GPU Project “Zen” Detailed – Radeon on Steroids to Amp Clock Speeds & Efficiency

[Freddie1980]

Good info. Let's wish them, as achievement and successful as for Ryzen ...

 

[Kirby Wurm]

It is going to be interesting to see the AMD 2018 Q1 financials. I suspect that with the Cyrpto situation that volumes YOY for RTG will be up anyway - that will have been protecting the whole division to some degree. That boardroom conversation where they show the actual financial graph and think that they have done enough to be safe.

I think that what we are seeing is a mix of reaction from the 12nm process, ASIC ethereum development, Koduri leaving and Lisa having a rock solid reputation following Ryzen within the business.

Intel's security issues, Nvidia's GPP decisions and the success of Ryzen's modular design has got to be a really strong opportunity to launch new technology ASAP.

I predict that there are two things happening here. First that GPU's are going to the 12nm+ process and they have brought Engineers from the transition project from Ryzen making that change to GPU. That gives them an opportunity for a 10% clock bump. I hope they will offer a re-engineered Vega with a lower core count card to replace the Polaris 580. Vega does appear to be doing well in the 2400g and obviously plays well with DDR4 so I hope we see a Vega 52 with GDDR that hopefully they can produce in enough quantity to actually hold stock of and has performance 10-15% higher than a 580.

Second - Navi has already been rumored to be a modular design. That would directly leverage from the Ryzen marketing and success and get them away from large graphics cores. I suspect that the team that led the development of IF for Ryzen has been tasked with making sure that whatever they are using to do that in Graphics actually delivers.

Good post, I hope this is the case.

 

[redfist]

Good post, I hope this is the case.

+1

 

[FoxEye]

Grrr, please don't bump threads to post "+1". Makes all of us click the thread to see if there's any new info, and instead it's a meaningless bump :/

 

[JediFragger]

Grrr, please don't bump threads to post "+1". Makes all of us click the thread to see if there's any new info, and instead it's a meaningless bump :/

+1

 

[doodah]

If it means competition, I am all for it.

But the cynic in me expects this 2 years too late, hot and less efficient

 

[JediFragger]

We'll get Navi next year, and the new GCN replacement in 2021.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

If they can time a new card around the 1180ti release and it competes, then it'll be coinciding with my monitor upgrade which will be due at the same time. I'm sure a lot of enthusiasts will be looking to jump to the higher refresh, HDR etc.. monitors, so the stage is AMD's.

p.s. whilst Ryzen has been great for the budget conscious and those outwith gaming, it hasn't quite hit the spot to challenge Intel in the gaming space... yet.

 

[D1craig]

The stories of AMD lately I'm surprised the title never accused AMD of making light of drug abuse or something lol

 

[D.P.]

This was discussed about 6 months ago. Basically AMD's GPU division has mostly made use of the predefined libraries logic units and automatic routing tools etc. AMD's CPU division, and Nvidia, use much more engineer resources to manually tweak logic unit's design and routing. This can improve power efficiency and density, but costs a lot of development time/money. AMD might also do what Nvidia did heavily with Pascal with extensive path optimization so the clock speed can be bumped with a small cost in IPC.

Combined with the tweaked GF process this might slowly close the gap a little with Nvidia since everyone is stuck on '12'nm for the time being.