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AMD 6500XT / 6600XT / 6700XT

The RX6700 XT seems like a RX5700 XT with a big OC, a narrower memory bus (compensated for with infinity cache?) and more memory. The most interesting card imo is that 6500 XT with 2048 shaders which is quite a bit bigger than the 5500 XT. If it came out at a similar price point to the 5500 XT we'd have a real low-mid-range king on our hands, but that doesn't seem to make any sense in the current market or based on how AMD has been pricing recently.

I'd say the Nvidia cards would look more attractive because of the extra features they offer and that AMD is likely to just price their cards in line with real world rasterisation performance leaving scarcely any room for a potential bargain, but the fact is most people probably won't be able to get their hands on any of these cards until probably Q3 anyway rendering this all a bit academic.
 
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I'm wondering whether these cards will finally enable me to double the performance of my 8Gb RX480 for the same price I paid for that in spring 2017 (approximately £230)? It seems like this should be possible after 4 years!
 
It all depends whether they build them at GF on 12nm - might explain the power increase. The efficiency increase of RDNA2 may make them competitive at the right price on 12nm.
 
roadie said:
I'm wondering whether these cards will finally enable me to double the performance of my 8Gb RX480 for the same price I paid for that in spring 2017 (approximately £230)? It seems like this should be possible after 4 years!
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This but for the £300 R9 390 from 2015....
 
That RX6600 looks like an amazing replacement to the product stacking from the RX480/580 finally, assuming its priced around 250 or less.

AMD has done a terrible job replacing its old cards stack placement to the market.

Stock aside, product placement for it is really good considering that most games still run fine on a nvidia 1070 class card performance wise.
 
4K8KW10 said:
There is very high level of risk - these prices may fall tomorrow and we cannot predict it.

RX 6800 XT is given 4.67$ profit per day.
If the RX 6700 XT can mine at 2.3$ profit per day and the investment in your rig is just 600$, you will need 261 days of non-stop mining to even break-even. If the prices and profit remains the same.
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...unless bitcoin continues to rise and rise. What if Bitcoin is worth $200,000 in a few years? Then you have been mining at nearly $20 a day.

I imagine that is what a lot are doing right now. Mining, maybe selling some and keeping a some on the speculation that Bitcoin keeps going up.
 
Raelgun said:
That RX6600 looks like an amazing replacement to the product stacking from the RX480/580 finally, assuming its priced around 250 or less.

AMD has done a terrible job replacing its old cards stack placement to the market.

Stock aside, product placement for it is really good considering that most games still run fine on a nvidia 1070 class card performance wise.
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Yes, typical AMD - it snatches a defeat from the jaws of victory.

The Navi 10 ~250 sq. mm is the direct replacement and successor of the Ellesmere aka Polaris 10/20/30 ~230 sq. mm.
But AMD has gone very greedy and put the much slower Navi 14 ~150 sq. mm RX 5500 XT with the same performance as the original Ellesmere at the very same price point.
Which means that since 2016, 5 years already, it hasn't offered better performance under the $200 mark.
 
Ploddles said:
AMD won't care who is buying their cards, gamers or miners, or even gamers who mine when not gaming. Their business is to sell the cards to whoever wants them. If AMD blocked mining somehow, the miners would simply buy Nvidia, so AMD loses all those sales. It will never happen, why would they restrict who buys their product, it doesn't make business sense.
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The current shortage would have allowed them to gain much needed market share in the gaming sector if they had restricted the mining capability of their gpu's. Every gpu would have sold to all the gamers who normally buy Nvidia only.
 
Gaming and mining are two very distinct and different markets. If AMD doesn't care about the gamers and cannot satisfy the demand, it's simply the best just to give up and stop making gaming graphics cards at all.

That will happen eventually naturally when consumers simply stop buying Radeons...
 
4K8KW10 said:
Yes, typical AMD - it snatches a defeat from the jaws of victory.

The Navi 10 ~250 sq. mm is the direct replacement and successor of the Ellesmere aka Polaris 10/20/30 ~230 sq. mm.
But AMD has gone very greedy and put the much slower Navi 14 ~150 sq. mm RX 5500 XT with the same performance as the original Ellesmere at the very same price point.
Which means that since 2016, 5 years already, it hasn't offered better performance under the $200 mark.
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its what an APU is for.
No need for cards at that range anymore.
its way more expensive to make cards today vs previously.
 
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