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AMD 6600 (NON XT) for 600 euros !


Prices will be similar to the RTX 3060 (at least £490), which it presumably will match in performance. Nvidia is way ahead of AMD in terms of selling GPUs (and production output), so they can still set the prices of the market.

I think prices could improve, if Nvidia decides it's worth releasing desktop versions of the RTX 3050 and 3050 TI.

What's odd about the whole situation is, it has been about a year since the Ampere series was released, usually the whole lineup would've been released by now (excluding 'Super' versions ofc).

Edit - The price of the RX 6600 XT is currently around £460-470, so I'd expect the RX 6600 to retail for ~£50 less.

It will be interesting to see how much the RX 6600 can be overclocked, it has a TDP of just 150w.
 
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PCs don't even need a discrete graphics card.

the future is the SoC.

Buying individual parts is becoming like trying to build your own car from parts, much better and cheaper to buy the finished product.
 
PCs don't even need a discrete graphics card.

the future is the SoC.

Buying individual parts is becoming like trying to build your own car from parts, much better and cheaper to buy the finished product.


RDNA 2 APUs /iGPUs are supposed to be coming next year, but it's still a while off. The problem here is, the APUs always seem to be a generation behind the graphics card series (so, presumably, no RDNA 3 APUs next year).

An improved RDNA 2 GPU is also rumoured for an updated Xbox Series X console, presumably these chips will all be using 5/6nm EUV fab. processes. No sign of a PC equivalent APU though, which is a shame because the current Series S already provides great 1080p performance, for the price.

Still, 2023 looks like it will be a great year for iGPUs and APUs, assuming they adopt RDNA 3.
 
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Looking at Cyberpunk 2077 at Ultra (and from my own experience playing this game), it's quite hard to recommend buying any graphics card below a RTX 2080 TI/RTX 3070, or a RX 6700 XT for 1080p gaming, at the highest preset.

Link here:
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xfx_radeon_rx_6600_xt_merc_308_review/7

Presumably, if a RX 6700 (no XT version) existed, it would be fairly ideal for gaming at 1080p Ultra, in even the most demanding titles.

Not impressed with AMD's apparent lack of thought here, but maybe it's still to come.
 
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Looking at Cyberpunk 2077 at Ultra (and from my own experience playing this game), it's quite hard to recommend buying any graphics card below a RTX 2080 TI/RTX 3070, or a RX 6700 XT for 1080p gaming, at the highest preset.

https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xfx_radeon_rx_6600_xt_merc_308_review/7

Presumably, if a RX 6700 (no XT version) existed, it would be fairly ideal for gaming at 1080p Ultra.

Not impressed with AMD's apparent lack of thought here.

Lets be real. The 6800 minimum was what you really need. Anything below that is budget.

These days, these companies got us scrambling to where this more end trash is acceptable
 
Lets be real. The 6800 minimum was what you really need. Anything below that is budget.

These days, these companies got us scrambling to where this more end trash is acceptable


Nope, disagree 6700 XT is plently for 1080p highest preset, unless you want minimum framerates much higher than 60.
 
Looking at Cyberpunk 2077 at Ultra (and from my own experience playing this game), it's quite hard to recommend buying any graphics card below a RTX 2080 TI/RTX 3070, or a RX 6700 XT for 1080p gaming, at the highest preset.

Link here:
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/xfx_radeon_rx_6600_xt_merc_308_review/7

Presumably, if a RX 6700 (no XT version) existed, it would be fairly ideal for gaming at 1080p Ultra, in even the most demanding titles.

Not impressed with AMD's apparent lack of thought here, but maybe it's still to come.


What's wrong with those benchmarks

why is the 2080ti, 3070, 3070ti and 3080 all faster than the 3080ti
 
Yeah, I noticed that lol. Driver issue with 3080 TI maybe, or weird Vsync issue (I noticed in game vsync can cause weird drops in framerate).
 
I've reconsidered this a bit, this benchmark is showing 1% lows of 63 FPS on Cyberpunk 2077 for the RX 6700 XT at Ultra preset, link here:
https://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/1080p-medium.png

So, a 6700 (non XT), might not produce enough performance for Cyberpunk 2077 at this resolution. You can also see that the RX 3060 TI can comfortably handle 1080p @ Ultra - Right now, these seem a better deal than then the RX 6700 XT.

Hard to recommend a RX 6800, since the availability is so bad, that the prices are sometimes worse than some RX 6800 XTs...
 
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I've reconsidered this a bit, this benchmark is showing 1% lows of 63 FPS on Cyberpunk 2077 for the RX 6700 XT at Ultra preset, link here:
https://www.kitguru.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/1080p-medium.png

So, a 6700 (non XT), might not produce enough performance for Cyberpunk 2077 at this resolution. You can also see that the RX 3060 TI can comfortably handle 1080p @ Ultra - Right now, these seem a better deal than then the RX 6700 XT.

Hard to recommend a RX 6800, since the availability is so bad, that the prices are sometimes worse than some RX 6800 XTs...

If I were to buy a card right now in the current climate, it would be the 3060Ti (and this is what I'm keeping an eye out for). If the 6800's were cheaper I would buy that. If it were normal times, I would have got the 6800XT or the 3080

EDIT: Absolutely agree with you btw, the prices of 6800's are just silly. Heck 6700's are lowest $849 here. It's banana's. I can't in good conscience buy a card that is double, or three times it's price.
 
Prices will be similar to the RTX 3060 (at least £490), which it presumably will match in performance. Nvidia is way ahead of AMD in terms of selling GPUs (and production output), so they can still set the prices of the market.

I think prices could improve, if Nvidia decides it's worth releasing desktop versions of the RTX 3050 and 3050 TI.

What's odd about the whole situation is, it has been about a year since the Ampere series was released, usually the whole lineup would've been released by now (excluding 'Super' versions ofc).

Edit - The price of the RX 6600 XT is currently around £460-470, so I'd expect the RX 6600 to retail for ~£50 less.

It will be interesting to see how much the RX 6600 can be overclocked, it has a TDP of just 150w.

edit - my mistake
 
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