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Amd 8 cores! Will beat conroe!

so will they have this ready for conroe's realease in a couple of months time?



;)

theres a brilliant quote on xs, somebody has it in there sig.

"am2 - ever throw a party and nobody came?"
 
Surely the software needs to be able to take advantage of more that one thread? They haven't even been coded to use 2 threads - let alone 4?

Is there something I am missing here?
 
i can count the number of programs that will use 8 cores on one hand...


...and i dont have any fingers
 
A true fanboy article :rolleyes:

Although, if this 'inverse threading' thing that is written about in that article is used then I does look interesting.
 
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Stelly said:
what needs 8 cores

Stelly

There are 8-way opteron systems already (including 8 dualcores = 16 physical cores). Server market. ;)

Always been AMD's priority. Thats where K8 came from, in case you didnt already know. :)

Edit: Make that 16 total cores, at 3ghz each, with high-speed, dedicated HT links between the 8 dualcores. ;)
 
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Stelly said:
what needs 8 cores

Stelly

Have you not seen the Sun T1000/T2000 servers? 8 SPARC 3 1GHz cores on a single socket. Capable of 4 simultaneous threads per core for 32 per socket.

I hope to have lots of them soon to play with.

And in case you're wondering why I quoted Stelly, my Weblogic server apps are currently running 32 threads each and there are two per server plus the OS and management tools.

Hmm, parallelism!
 
sr4470 said:
Does that beat 8 dualcore opterons @3ghz each with dedicated HT links? :p

Believe it or not, it does! 16 opterons will only run 16 threads and although the Opteron is a great processor for single threaded apps, it doesn;t have the specialisation of a SPARC for running java services.

Oh, and the T1000 is $12000 (list) with 8 cores and 16GB RAM. Try speccing an 8-way dual core Opteron for anywhere near that.
 
MikeTimbers said:
Believe it or not, it does! 16 opterons will only run 16 threads and although the Opteron is a great processor for single threaded apps, it doesn;t have the specialisation of a SPARC for running java services.

Oh, and the T1000 is $12000 (list) with 8 cores and 16GB RAM. Try speccing an 8-way dual core Opteron for anywhere near that.

Ok, but what about overall performance?
 
sr4470 said:
I figured as much, but what about overall performance?

Horses for course. If I wanted to run Oracle then the Opteron would be better but for that price I could also get an amazing RISC machine like an IBM Power5 or Sun SPARC 4+ which would probably have better server management capabilities.

Smaller Opterons (2-way/4-way) kick serious ass for many types of apps. At work, some guys wanted to run a single-threaded app at very high speed and the Sun machine they had was spinning three of its four cores and the remaining one just didn't have the throughput. I recommended an Opteron. Haven't seen the results yet but I'd be surprised if it didn't blow the SPARC away.

Hell, I'm typing this on an Opty146 so they must be good for something :)
 
From what I've seen, 2x dualcore Opterons completely demolish a quad xeon in benchmarks, same with dualcore vs dual xeon. (Anandtech did a big dualcore article on this)

I'm not sure about dualcore xeons though..
 
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