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AMD 955 Sells Out.
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are u for real? are you saying that an i7 running at 3.2 is faster than a PII at 4 Ghz?
Not always, but regardless at that clock difference amd should be killing it. I hope they close/match the performance per clock that intel has sooner rather than later.
got to love the fanboys...
I have both an I7 @ 4ghz and a 955BE at just under 4ghz and there is not difference between them other than encoding.. and I very much anyone on this forums spends enough hours / day encoding to justify the extra expense on the I7.
Also the sooner people realise its not all about clock speed the better.. 955BE set-ups gain huge performance once you start to clock the NB/HT.
YOU WILL NOTICE NO REAL-WORLD DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO CPU's.. Game performance is similar I7 was ahead in some my 955BE ahead in other.. Desktop / browsing / normal PC work no difference..
At what?
Have to agree having owned an i7 920 rig as well as my current setup, the X4 955 will run any game fine with a decent graphics card, the graphics card is much more important when playing games.
The i7 920 is a better CPU but you wont be able to tell when playing any game currently out.
The i7 920 is a better CPU but you wont be able to tell when playing any game currently out.
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I have appsolutely no idea. Maybe so guillable fools will buy it thinking it's the better product. More money for OCers 
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the i7 920 is the better cpu AND is coupled with the best platform
Almost all benchmarks that are not game-related. Of course, as others have said, you will not notice a difference in every day stuff but there is no denying that the i7 is more powerful and that you'd notice a big difference if you do stuff like 3D rendering, audio/video editing etc.
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I am not an Intel fanboy, far from it. Hell i consider myself to be closer to an AMD fanboy rather than an intel one. I consider myself to be pretty realistic. AMD CPUs have lower IPC and no one can deny that. Real life experience is simply bottlenecked by other components right now. I have no idea what either of the two "feel", i am still using my two year old Q6600 and see no need to upgrade.
Fanboy comment was not directed at yourself specifically more at the majority of posters that post i7 without any prior knowledge (hell if I could have brought a gaming rig with the same performance for a couple of £100 less I would be a bit irritated to!
) However, if you have no experience of either CPU why make such a sweeping statement? Having both an i7 and AM3 rig I believe I am in a position to make comment on the relative real-life performance of both systems..
Harsh reality is if you are buying a everyday / gaming rig then i7 is pretty much a pointless yet expensive upgrade over socket 775, if you are looking for a new set up then again i7 is an overpriced upgrade if all you want to do is game / everyday computer use.. you would be much better to spend your money on a better graphics card...
I don't think there is an argument that the i7 is a better CPU in some benchmarks.. However other than for encoding my 955BE rig clocked at just under 4ghz CPU with 2.7ghz NB/HT will walk all over the stock i7
Hmmm
I have just finished reading an article that benched a i7 920 against a 955BE and the results were not even close, in addition, the oc'ing on stock voltage definately went against AMD. They were pretty extensive benchies as well. The i7 was a D0 stepping though, which might have made a difference??
Im holding off until I see what the new AMD chipset brings
As Pneumonic stated though it doesn't matter about benchies etc. If all you're using the system for is day to day pc use and single GPU gaming the i7 will see very little extra benefit over the 955.
Anybody who wants to spend the extra £50 or so on the i7 can feel free to do so for their epeen but I personally would rather have the £50 to spend on something else.
Everbody knows the i7 (D0 atleast) clocks much better than the 955 and is much better and encoding for example. Although realistically how man people with i7 actually do any encoding at all, I would wager a small percentage.
I still don't think the 965 will be able to compete with the i7 for clock speed (OC) but I do think it will perform equal to if not better than the i7 in single GPU games. I guess we will see over the weekend.
Anybody who wants to spend the extra £50 or so on the i7 can feel free to do so for their epeen but I personally would rather have the £50 to spend on something else.
Everbody knows the i7 (D0 atleast) clocks much better than the 955 and is much better and encoding for example. Although realistically how man people with i7 actually do any encoding at all, I would wager a small percentage.
I still don't think the 965 will be able to compete with the i7 for clock speed (OC) but I do think it will perform equal to if not better than the i7 in single GPU games. I guess we will see over the weekend.
I agree with those real life performance statements.
There is absolutely no need to go for the highest of everything as performance are bottlenecked by one thing if not another. We are not truely experiencing everything to the its potential anyway. It doesn't matter if you go with the i7 or AMD Phenom II x4. Graphics cards are not what it should be and DX11 cards are just around the corner. Sata 2 are also bringing the performance down etc etc.
If you're just a normal everyday pc user and gamer, AMD is suffice.
If you're an enthusiasts or into heavy graphical work, who also cares about the rendering time and achieving the best possible framerates or for egotistical reasons, then roll with the i7.
You may want to take note that DDR3 tri channel rams and x58 motherboards will make a consierable difference to the overall price.
Sure, you can cut down here and there... but it be like buying a ferrari and feeding it on unleaded.
All I'm saying is, if you can afford the i7, then you may as well go all out with the motherboard and rams. Otherwise you may as well go the AMD route and buy the best AM3 motherboard and DDR3 dual channel rams for similar performance and saving yourself up to £200 for upgrades on other aspects of your PC.
For me, it is the real life performance that counts. From a human perspective, you will not be able to tell the difference when the numbers gets beyond a certain level.
There is absolutely no need to go for the highest of everything as performance are bottlenecked by one thing if not another. We are not truely experiencing everything to the its potential anyway. It doesn't matter if you go with the i7 or AMD Phenom II x4. Graphics cards are not what it should be and DX11 cards are just around the corner. Sata 2 are also bringing the performance down etc etc.
If you're just a normal everyday pc user and gamer, AMD is suffice.
If you're an enthusiasts or into heavy graphical work, who also cares about the rendering time and achieving the best possible framerates or for egotistical reasons, then roll with the i7.
You may want to take note that DDR3 tri channel rams and x58 motherboards will make a consierable difference to the overall price.
Sure, you can cut down here and there... but it be like buying a ferrari and feeding it on unleaded.
All I'm saying is, if you can afford the i7, then you may as well go all out with the motherboard and rams. Otherwise you may as well go the AMD route and buy the best AM3 motherboard and DDR3 dual channel rams for similar performance and saving yourself up to £200 for upgrades on other aspects of your PC.
For me, it is the real life performance that counts. From a human perspective, you will not be able to tell the difference when the numbers gets beyond a certain level.
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The 940 or 955 is a very good buy, although personally I went for the Phenom II X2 550 and am enjoying my STOCK 4 x 3.1Ghz cores for £70 
Let us be under no illusion here, any of these quad-core chips are going to chew up whatever you throw at them and ask for seconds. Ask yourself this question: What are the top 3 things you use your PC for? If video encoding is one of them, then an i7 may be worth the extra £ for you. Otherwise you simply won't be able to tell the difference in today's (and most of tomorrow's) real-world apps/games - stay with core2quad or go with AM3 and save yourself the extra money.
Personally I spent the (considerable) extra money I saved from not buying an i7 on a better GPU and 8GB of RAM - no regrets so far
Let us be under no illusion here, any of these quad-core chips are going to chew up whatever you throw at them and ask for seconds. Ask yourself this question: What are the top 3 things you use your PC for? If video encoding is one of them, then an i7 may be worth the extra £ for you. Otherwise you simply won't be able to tell the difference in today's (and most of tomorrow's) real-world apps/games - stay with core2quad or go with AM3 and save yourself the extra money.Personally I spent the (considerable) extra money I saved from not buying an i7 on a better GPU and 8GB of RAM - no regrets so far
I would be interested to see what they were running the 995BE at, you start to see the real performance gains once you are running high NB/HT clocks with you RAM at the correct speed and timmings (not always the highest frequency, you get the best gains by balancing it with your MC clock, is a very interesting thread on the OCZ forums if anyone fancies a long read)..
As I said I ran a number of benchmarks between my clocked i7 and 955BE and for 90% of the benchmarks there was little difference between the two systems.
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Can you point us to the thread? Wouldnt mind having a read through that. Was always interested on how to optimise AMD platforms!
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[ESRA]Taf;14661499 said:The 940 or 955 is a very good buy, although personally I went for the Phenom II X2 550 and am enjoying my STOCK 4 x 3.1Ghz cores for £70
Personally I spent the (considerable) extra money I saved from not buying an i7 on a better GPU and 8GB of RAM - no regrets so far
Stop making sweeping assumptions. Quite frankly NO one of these won't "chew up" whatever I throw at them, no where near in fact.
