AMD A10?

The A10 would only be ideal on a budget gaming rig (£2-£300) or for a HTPC as it would not require a g/card for playback. Also, the socket isn't compatible as the APU is FM2 and yours is AM3/3+.

I would recommend waiting for Haswell or Steamroller.
 
Ah ok, the bulldozer ended up being a bit of a flop didn't it? I was considering intel options, I mainly play WoW, which is very CPU dependent for frames as far as I know - but i7's are so pricey! ;o
 
I own this APU and I frankly can't fault it for what it achieves or how much it costs.

My whole system cost me around £300 - £350, bargain!

It runs LOL, Left for dead 2, Batman Arkham Asylum, N4S all at good frames.

It's a winner in my books! Handles all the tasks I need it for.
 
A10 is a great APU along the others just below it. However you seem to be looking more for a dedicated GPU and CPU especially if you want very decent frame rates on top.

An i7 you won't need but an i5 would be perfect for WoW.
 
Ah ok, the bulldozer ended up being a bit of a flop didn't it? I was considering intel options, I mainly play WoW, which is very CPU dependent for frames as far as I know - but i7's are so pricey! ;o

I've got a Bulldozer FX-6100 and for what it's worth, I cannot fault it. I can play games with ease & no issues, but overclocking it has been problematic, not sure if it's the board or the CPU.

I would highly recommend waiting for Haswell, it's due in June and being so so close to release, you'd be better waiting than shelling out now. As mentioned in another thread, if you've waited this long, another 2 months isn't going to make a difference :D
 
The A10 Apu onboard GPU would be a lot worse than the 6970 you have at the moment, and that's it's main reason to go for them.

upgrade wise you could go for a FX 83 series, wait for steam roller or jump ship and go with intel.

Or just shove another 6950/70 in there.
 
It's a pity your board doesn't support Piledriver, that would've been a cheap upgrade.

Can you upgrade to an i5-3570K? If I remember correctly WoW can't use multiple cores efficiently anyway. Might as well bring up task manager and see how many cores it's using now.
 
If wow is CPU dependant sumone needs to let my CPU know cause its only using 60% of one of my cores atm.
 
If wow is CPU dependant sumone needs to let my CPU know cause its only using 60% of one of my cores atm.
That's because at the core of the game it is still using an ancient game engine that use no more than 1 core for the most demanding workload, which is why people still need to upgrade to faster CPUs such as Intel i5/i7 (and overclocking) to improve their frame rate, as that's the only way to improve the per core/single-threaded performance.

If Blizzard can update the game to use multi-cores properly, then everyone would see a huge improvement on their frame rate during situations with lots of dynamic things happening...but it's not something that can be done with simple patching, they'd need to completely update the game engine (not just the graphic engine)...which they are not going do considering a) the stage of life that the game is already in b) it's not gonna worth their time and money, as it's not gonna have much impact on increase their profit (since anyone still play are pretty much just old players now).
 
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Nothing wrong with an 8350 .... With the right MB just OC it to 4.8 ghz.
Yea...nothing wrong with the CPU itself, but more to do with games generally don't use more than 4 cores, thus making the 8350 gaming performance quite a way behind the i5 of the same clock speed. Things will get better with more newer games "starting" to use 6 cores or more, but still a long time until games using 6 cores+ as common standard...at least not until the new consoles are out. Untill then, we'd still get lots of lazy console ports that lack optimisation which the games still use less than 4 cores...
 
At similar prices, it'd be a tough call between the 83xx and 3570k with a view to the near future imo, that the FX8320 is ~£45 cheaper than the 3570k, I know where my money would be going
 
I have been doing some research; it is possible to make wow use more cores but you have to fiddle around with .cfg files and there's a good chance you'll bork the game and have to redownload - it's a shame the game doesn't use my card properly and just flops around on a single processor core - my overclock has gone mental recently as well. Each time I save the settings and reboot it seems to forget them, it boots first time with the settings, but by the time I load into windows it's back to stock with cpu level up engaged, so 2.8->3.2 - my custom settings just disappear :(
 
At similar prices, it'd be a tough call between the 83xx and 3570k with a view to the near future imo, that the FX8320 is ~£45 cheaper than the 3570k, I know where my money would be going
Future yes, but for present, it is still -45% or more performance for the sake of -£45 in majority of the games.

To be honest though, I think it might not be a good idea jump on the 8 cores wagon for gaming just yet. Althought I said with the launch of the new consoles, the use of 6 cores or more could become a common standard...but it is still only a "prediction" base on theory. I would say for gaming, i5 is still a better all-rounder. If want to jump on the 6 cores/8 cores wagon, it would make more sense to confirm of the prediction "new consoles=more cores usage" is true two years down the line from now, and then look at what BOTH Intel and AMD have on the market at the time before making a decision which way to go.

If people already got AM3+ board and using an old CPU like Phenom II, then upgrading to the Piledriver would make lots of sense, however if it involves getting a new motherboard, then the Piledriver is not really that attractive comparing to the i5.

If you look at the CPU performance of Crysis 3 for example, it would be a pretty good representation of what the performance of Piledriver 6 cores vs i5 Quad-core:
http://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance/page6.html
The FX8350 at 4.00GHz is only around on par with the i5 3470 at 3.20GHz

And if look at the FX8350 vs i7 3770K, the FX8350 are still quite a way behind when comparing on the same clock speeds. It would be pretty safe to assume that the FX8350 would be close to compariable to i5 if both were on the same clock speed in game that use 6 cores (or may be 1-3fps ahead if the game would use 8 cores), but the trade-off would be FAR lesser performance in games that don't (not sure if it would make any sense at all to "hope for" 1-3fps benefit in games that use 6-8 cores at the cost of having 10-25fps less in games that uses 4 cores or less).
 
At similar prices, it'd be a tough call between the 83xx and 3570k with a view to the near future imo, that the FX8320 is ~£45 cheaper than the 3570k, I know where my money would be going

AM3+ motherboards are a bit cheaper than their intel equivalents. For example, the 990fx Sabertooth is £143.99 whilst the z77 Sabertooth is £188.99.

Anther bonus is they look like they have a longer life as steamroller will probably be on AM3+ whereas z77 is EOL.
 
AM3+ motherboards are a bit cheaper than their intel equivalents. For example, the 990fx Sabertooth is £143.99 whilst the z77 Sabertooth is £188.99.
I don't think you can really using Sabertooth pricings as general price comparison of Intel vs AMD board though. I recall the Z77 Sabertooth was just around £150-£160 when it was first launched, but now it is at silly pricing for whatever reason (supply vs demand comes to mind).
 
I don't think you can really using Sabertooth pricings as general price comparison of Intel vs AMD board though. I recall the Z77 Sabertooth was just around £150-£160 when it was first launched, but now it is at silly pricing for whatever reason (supply vs demand comes to mind).

Another example...

Crosshair V Formula Z is £194.99 and Maximus V Formula £239.99.
 
Another example...

Crosshair V Formula Z is £194.99 and Maximus V Formula £239.99.
I wasn't just talking about pricing of Sabertooth board, but more about "poster-boy" boards with flashy name in general. Like I said the Intel Sabertooth, Maximus, whatever whatever boards would be higher in demand than the AMD board, so it make sense that Asus would price it higher accordingly. For the AMD platform, you can get the fastest/baddest motherboard money could buy, and the CPU would still hold back the graphic performance/capability of SLI/CF of two mid/high-end GPU more than a Intel i5 CPU on a cheaper CF/SLI board in games that use less than 6 cores.

Also as I said, you shouldn't comparing the pricing of these poster-boy boards...these are what people more likely to spend their money on:
Intel:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-201-MS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=2261
AMD:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-194-MS&groupid=701&catid=1903&subcat=2046
 
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