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AMD announce EPYC

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Seriously can't wait for Milan now, a software dev who I work with had a meeting with a MS bod yesterday and they were chatting about the scaling of the servers for cloud based applications, and he said and I'll indirect quote "You've seen nothing, these CPU's a simply next level for us (MS) in all aspects, density, performance, TCO."

I dread to think what Genoa is going to do with 5nm, DDR5, PCI-E 5.0 and the potential to have up to 128c/512t on a single socket system, Datcentre in a box compared with 5 years ago, well almost. :p
 
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I wonder how feasible that will be?
The scaling to 5nm is less than double the transistor budget over 7nm so the individual chiplets will surely have to be significantly larger in size.

Seems like some of the space may be saved by downsizing the I/O die, and slightly increasing the package size of each Zen4 chiplet. They'll also be changing socket so they have room to move to a bigger package overall if they wish.
 
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Got me a server to drop a couple of these bad boys into. Quite excited to see Milan and what she does :) I really don't need the performance over Rome but you can be sure ill take it!

I'm not in a position to do anything with Milan until 2021 sadly, and even then it may be Q2, which is a really shame. I'll just have to love vicariously through you and others who have hands on with them early in the product life cycle.

If they can achieve 15% more performance on average over X workloads, then that is the equivalent of going from 64 cores to ~74 cores for the same space and maybe slightly less power, exciting times.
 
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It's amazing to see how far EPYC has come in a few short years, and the article below shows the expandability on offer compared with competing systems, not that they can even hold a candle to this, 160 PCIE 4.0 lanes on one system and the engineering and ideas that have been put in place to allow this to be made are epic/EPYC? :)

Article is well worth a read if you are interested in how things are coming along.

https://www.servethehome.com/dell-and-amd-showcase-future-of-servers-160-pcie-lane-design/
 
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News just in Socket SP5 (Genoa onwards) has been pictured.

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Yes it is mahoooosive!!!
 
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Looking at these first decent set of leaked benchmarks Genoa looks to be already busting Sapphire Rapids chops.

 
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It seems that AMD have now officially passed the 25%+ market share with EPYC in Datacentre, ans have successfully beaten their old Opteron years by some margin already .


With a further significant delay expected for Sapphire Rapids, their inroads will increase faster than predicted for 2023, allowing Genoa, Bergamo and Genoa-X to retain the lead in DC, and extend it significantly. Interesting times ahead, if AMD hit 35%+ Intel will surely be losing huge sums of cash, since that is where their margins used to be.
 
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Interesting to see some potential leaks of the new Genoa 96c/192t EPYC 9654 (360w) hitting the shelves (so to speak) this quarter. Makes me wonder if AMD have slightly pulled forward the official launch announcement to capitalise on the further delays that Sapphire Rapids is facing, giving them a clear 2Q's to make even bigger in-road to the DC/server market.
 
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Intel finally admitting they are knackered for 3+ years

"Intel's CEO Pat Gelsinger announced that he expects the company to continue to lose its market share to AMD as the competition has "too much momentum" going for it. AMD's Ryzen and EPYC processors continue to deliver power and efficiency performance figures, which drives customers towards the company."

"Competition just has too much momentum, and we haven't executed well enough. So we expect that bottoming. The business will be growing, but we do expect that there continues to be some share losses. We're not keeping up with the overall TAM growth until we get later into '25 and '26 when we start regaining share, material share gains."


Yet only a year ago Pat was saying AMD had a good run, but it is now over. Talk about counting your chickens, maybe he's been taking advice from Raja K. :cry:
 
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Interesting article below.


Delay in Mass Production of New Intel Products a Boon for AMD, Proportion of AMD x86 Server CPUs Forecast to Exceed 22% in 2023, Says TrendForce

"According to the latest TrendForce research, the mass production schedule of new Sapphire Rapids products has been delayed due to the poor yield rate of the Intel 7 process. At present, the production yield rate of Sapphire Rapids is estimated at only 50~60%, which affects mainstream Sapphire Rapids MCC products. The company’s mass production planning has been deferred from 4Q22 to 1H23. This delay in the mass production schedule not only affects the ODM material preparation cycle, but also greatly reduces the proportion of OEMs and CSPs introducing Sapphire Rapids this year. AMD will be the biggest beneficiary. We estimate the market share of AMD x86 server CPU to be approximately 15% in 2022 and rise to 22% in 2023.

AMD has been seeing greatly improved capacity of ABF since 2H21. At the same time, more and more end customers have escalated requirements for energy consumption reduction. Considering the total cost of the server (TCO), they have begun to favor single-socket servers. TrendForce believes that the change in customer demand will enable AMD to break through the bottleneck created by a 2-socket solution, boosting the company’s overall shipments.

In addition to weak demand in the general environment, Intel is also facing continual shortages of low-end FPGA, which affects its dual-socket CPU orders, as well as facing pressure such as weakening demand in terms of government tenders and inventory control policies at OEMs. In addition, the high-end computing chip market has borne the brunt of the recent ban imposed by the U.S. Department of Commerce and shipments of customized chips from Intel and AMD are indeed under pressure. If the conflict between China and the United States intensifies in the future, Intel's dominance in the server CPU market may be a double-edged sword, implying a more serious impact than AMD.

ESG is included in corporate procurement indicators, driving demand for single-socket servers

Intel's new product mass production schedule has been delayed. It can be seen from ODM orders that major CSPs have increased their reliance on AMD. Since the overall server cost of AMD Milan is lower than that of Intel Ice Lake, AMD Milan features better RDIMM scalability and number of SSD channels. Unlike Intel's standard dual-socket design, AMD can achieve the performance required by customers as well as effectively helping customers save more capital expenditure.

In the short term, the market share of Intel x86 server CPU shipments has dropped by nearly 6% in the past two quarters compared with the same period last year, primarily due to a significant migration of orders from US-based CSPs. Among these orders, AMD Milan-X shipments stimulated stocking momentum from US-based CSPs such as Microsoft and Meta. Furthermore, supply of Lattice CPLDs required by 2-socket servers with Intel CPUs remains tight and customers are also switching to AMD due to concerns regarding supply. In the long run, as corporations and governments successively included ESG indicators into their procurement considerations, energy conservation performance will become key in procurement decisions. Therefore, TrendForce believes that AMD will see rapid growth in 2023. The market share of AMD x86 server CPU shipments is estimated to reach 25% in 4Q23, with an annual increase of 7% in 2023."
 
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