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AMD Computex 2018 Press Conference - 6th

JediFragger said:
The 960 was a 128-bit card, it was only the AMD 480 that forced them to up it. I expect them to go back to their default 128-bit with no competition forthcoming from AMD in the mid-range til next year.
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Yea you are right but during that gen, the 970 occupied the the £230~£299 pricing space, while the 960 was price at around £150~£180 and was more of an overpriced entry level card than mid-high tier card.

The model number of Nvidia cards label their cards have stopped being relevant for a while now, as it is not about what spec card should go with what model number, but it's now about watching what AMD has to offer first, before deciding which lowest spec card they could pick to beat AMD's offering at each price point, and then call them the same high model number such as xx60/xx70/xx80 and selling with a price to match those model numbers.
 
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Beren said:
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Hype train Alert.

Adding measuring chips held up by Lisa Su to the marketing slide is highly foolish but...

If we are looking a 2X Density of 7nm then a 40% reduction in die size equates to 20% higher transistor count on that 7nm chip.

Assuming 100% scaling (I know, but we have to fuel the hype from somewhere...) 20% Higher CU count along with more than 35% increased performance would equate to a 62% increase in performance. Also given the power efficiency we shouldn't be seeing the small nuclear reactors of the current chips which may make them easier to cool and potentially overclock.

They are also using 4 stacks of HBM - I am purely guessing but the layout would suggest that we are looking at twice the memory bandwith of the 14nm product.

So we could be looking at a chip significantly faster than the 1080ti - by perhaps 30%.
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Vega 76.8

Plus 62% sounds about right, the big question is what price. I really hope 7nm brings graphics card prices down to realistic levels.
 
7NM Vega is an HPC product especially with 4 stacks of expensive HBM2. Unless HBM2 pricing has crashed that would be a very expensive card to make for gaming IMHO.
 
jigger said:
Vega 76.8

Plus 62% sounds about right, the big question is what price. I really hope 7nm brings graphics card prices down to realistic levels.
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Plus 62% is so close to a pure guess I wouldnt hang anything on it. Though I might dig my post out and willy wave it if I turn out to be close :p

As for cost, we know that development of 7nm is not cheap. Add 4 stacks of HBM2 and this is going to be one expensive card.

It could still be a major win for AMD as it will launch pretty much alongside TR2. That is going to be one beast of a pro editing set up. I dont know how big that market segment is, but they have made a damn good case to own it.

Unfortunately it looks pretty certain that we are not going to see a 12nm refresh of polaris so it is 1H2019 before we are likely to see the next real contenders from AMD... Although that could also coincide really easilly with Zen 2.
 
AMD "Vega" Outsells "Previous Generation" by Over 10 Times

At its Computex presser, leading up to its 7 nm Radeon Vega series unveil, AMD touched upon the massive proliferation of the Vega graphics architecture, which is found not only in discrete GPUs, but also APUs, and semi-custom SoCs of the latest generation 4K-capable game consoles. One such slide that created quite some flutter reads that "Vega" shipments are over 10 times greater than those of the "previous generation."

Normally you'd assume the previous-generation of "Vega" to be "Polaris," since we're talking about the architecture, and not an implementation of it (eg: "Vega 10" or "Raven Ridge," etc.). AMD later, at its post event round-table, clarified that it was referring to "Fiji," or the chip that went into building the Radeon R9 Fury X, R9 Nano, etc., and comparing its sales with that of products based on the "Vega 10" silicon. Growth in shipments of "Vega" based graphics cards is triggered by the crypto-mining industry, and for all intents and purposes, AMD considers the "Vega 10" silicon to be a commercial success.

https://www.techpowerup.com/244942/amd-vega-outsells-previous-generation-by-over-10-times
 
Probably would have outsold fury x even without the bitcoin bukkake, didn't seem to be too many fury x cards produced before it vanished.
 
Are they stacking all the 2200g and 2400g sales in with the Vega56 and 64?

While I am super salty at both the mining craze pushing prices up and the fact that I have missed out on it twice both 10 years ago and this time round I am happy that AMD had a commercial success with Vega. It seems pretty solid, just that they didnt work out how to harness it for gaming.

Everything we hear about 7nm sounds good for the future... I just hope it delivers.
 
Beren said:
Are they stacking all the 2200g and 2400g sales in with the Vega56 and 64?

While I am super salty at both the mining craze pushing prices up and the fact that I have missed out on it twice both 10 years ago and this time round I am happy that AMD had a commercial success with Vega. It seems pretty solid, just that they didnt work out how to harness it for gaming.

Everything we hear about 7nm sounds good for the future... I just hope it delivers.
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Gaming perfectly fine here with Vega 64 couldn't be happier at this moment.
 
Vega64 seems like a really good card, esp for the future. If I were buying a setup from scratch I think it would be near top of my list now that deals are beginning to appear :)

Deeper DX12/Vulkan support def swings it, plus some nice Freesync screens are out and are coming.

Gotta say though, this Ti+X34P setup is daaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyym good :cool: Just gotta get out before the 'planned obsolescence' from nVidia hits ;) lol
 
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