AMD denies graphics card rumours

[humbug]

eyfunity ^^^^ made me

 

[Gregster]

I just got another 7950 so I hope they aren't coming soon. If so then I guess I'll be taking a sell on hit sooner rather than later .

Sweet

 

[Silver47]

Anandtech's article about the clarification of the rumours

So yes it seems that we wont be getting a major refresh this year, we might be getting new and improved 7900 series of cards. Now while we can lament the fact we won't be getting any new cards this year, it clearly shows us that TSMC's 20nm process isn't ready.

AMD clearly don't want to pull another 6000 series and refresh the lines without a process jump, and second, allows them to deploy CGN based APU's.

Given that they have a new APU just around the corner, next week i think, they may just come out with 86## series GPU's pretty soon.

Indeed, it looks like they will launch some time this year, but will be 7600 not 8600:

With 384 stream processors, Oland offers performance a step below the existing Cape Verde 7700 series parts and should give AMD the ability to deliver 7000 series functionality at under $100

I think it fair at this point we will be seeing the 9000 series next year to replace the 7000's in retail, same as what Nvidia did with the 400's. On the plus side it shows AMD aren't dragging the retail market in the OEM's rebadging at least.

I think Nvidia are also not going to make a launch of any new cards either, they probably want a new process just as AMD want one from TSMC, and as they make large GPU's in the first place can we honestly not blame them?

The time of the yearly GPU launch is over, as process nodes get harder and harder and both companies need longer to design a card that has substantial performance increases. Additionally, AMD need to make as much money as they can per design and Nvidia are focusing on newer revenue streams other than making money only off GPUs.

Plus side, I can just grab a 7850 now to replace my 6950 that a) Only just fits my case due to gigantic size and b) just about taps out my 380 PSU and runs cooler

 

[8 Pack]

The performance of the 8000 series according to many who know in the industry is truly amazing. We are assured too of not just a paper launch with the chips being well into production. While the 7900 series continues to dominate and stock in the channel is still good.

AMD can keep this true ace up there sleeves and will do so.

 

[Tonester0011]

I just got another 7950 so I hope they aren't coming soon. If so then I guess I'll be taking a sell on hit sooner rather than later .

Howcome you bought another 7950? Other than because you can

 

[Suarez7]

The performance of the 8000 series according to many who know in the industry is truly amazing. We are assured too of not just a paper launch with the chips being well into production. While the 7900 series continues to dominate and stock in the channel is still good.

AMD can keep this true ace up there sleeves and will do so.

Great news all round, if they beat nvidia at another series for performance, it will make nvidia step up their game. Could find myself switching back to AMD with this 8 series.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

For AMD’s part they believe the Radeon HD 7000 series is a very strong brand at retail – almost unbelievably having sold more 7900 cards in January 2013 than in any month prior

At least that is one good piece of news for the company.

The performance of the 8000 series according to many who know in the industry is truly amazing. We are assured too of not just a paper launch with the chips being well into production. While the 7900 series continues to dominate and stock in the channel is still good.

AMD can keep this true ace up there sleeves and will do so.

Oh?? Is this the retail cards which are not rebrands??

 

[Rusty0611]

Howcome you bought another 7950? Other than because you can

More FPS. And they're cheap .

 

[Rroff]

Unless things change dramatically I can't see the move from 7970->8970 being that amazing - its looking like 35-40% gains (about inline with the rather mediocre 6970->7970 move). Even less spectacular looking for the GTX680->780 with around 25% gains at 1920x tho much bigger gains with higher resolution/multi-monitor mostly due to not being shackled by a mid-range memory config. (Assuming here nVidia isn't going to do any daft model renumbering with Titan, etc.).

Looks like the next big game changer is going to be maxwell with its complete rejig of the compute capabilities.

 

[Buckster]

mmm - and after todays news ... ?

 

[~Mike~]

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18488821

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Unless things change dramatically I can't see the move from 7970->8970 being that amazing - its looking like 35-40% gains (about inline with the rather mediocre 6970->7970 move). Even less spectacular looking for the GTX680->780 with around 25% gains at 1920x tho much bigger gains with higher resolution/multi-monitor mostly due to not being shackled by a mid-range memory config. (Assuming here nVidia isn't going to do any daft model renumbering with Titan, etc.).

Looks like the next big game changer is going to be maxwell with its complete rejig of the compute capabilities.

Actually,the HD7970 performance increase is around the same as the GTX680 from the GTX580:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_680/27.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/28.html

Around 30% at launch.

The GTX480 to the GTX580 and the HD5870 to the HD6970 was around 10% to 15% it seems:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_580/27.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/Radeon_HD_6970/29.html

The GTX480 from the GTX285 was around 40% and the HD5870 from the HD4890 was around the same:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/Radeon_HD_5870/30.html

 

[Rroff]

Not quite getting the point of your post?

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Not quite getting the point of your post?

You said the HD7970 performance improvement was mediocre,so was the GTX680 one and the previous generation.

Even the use of the Titan name and the fact that people are saying is a limited run card,means the GTX780 will be a GK114 card. In fact rumours indicate it will be the cheaper cards such as the GTX760 and GTX760TI which might benefit the most, if a 256 bit memory controller is now used instead of a 192 bit one.

The people who have felt this slowing down the most are people like and my mates who tend not to spend more than £150ish on a graphics card.

 

[Rroff]

It is mediocre compared to the past, especially with the 680 and 7970 it feels like they are drip feeding GPUs to the public. Its why I haven't upgraded my GPUs yet (well that and I seem to spend more time playing on my laptop at the moment).

EDIT: You quote ~40% for GTX285->GTX480 which is true if you include a large range of resolutions and titles but if you look at the area that its aimed at 1920x DX10/11 gaming theres a huge jump up from the GTX285 in some cases managing twice the performance or more the same can't be said if you compare the 6970->7970 in their key areas and the jump from 580-680 is all over the place but generally not very inspiring.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It is mediocre compared to the past, especially with the 680 and 7970 it feels like they are drip feeding GPUs to the public. Its why I haven't upgraded my GPUs yet (well that and I seem to spend more time playing on my laptop at the moment).

Agreed.

The current £150 cards are the HD7850,and if you are lucky maybe a GTX660.

However,if you have a GTX460 or HD5850 these don't double the performance on average and could be had for well under £150,years ago. Moreover,unlike the newer cards,overclocking tended not to be blocked too.

The G92 and HD4000 series times were good times,for budget cards!!