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AMD Desktop CPU Price Cut July 9th

gurusan said:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-146-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=793

E6420

also a great overclocker JUST IN CASE you want more performance later...a mild overclock is SO easy...just set the bus to 333 or something and I bet you won't have to change any other settings. Everything should function on that fine at default voltages and that will make your CPU about 2.6ghz...almost as fast as a X6700
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Against this AMD CPU:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-191-AM&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=803

Find me benchmarks please where the E6420 beats that CPU.

He wont overclock, hes a daddy and is not intrested in that at all, for instance my Dad. :p :D ;)
 
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easyrider said:
But then if he gets an intel mobo on p35 and a 6240 he is ready for penryn that will beat that AM2 in a couple of months time.


Buying AM2 is a bad move wether running stock or not IMO.
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I can agree with that though. Very true very true. :D
 
stickroad said:
Against this AMD CPU:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=cp-191-am&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=803

find me benchmarks please where the e6420 beats that cpu.

he wont overclock, hes a daddy and is not intrested in that at all, for instance my dad. :p :d ;)
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i'm a dad twice over and look at my siggy. :p :p

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here's some benchmarks where a 6400 beats that cpu. could'nt find the 6420 as they don't have it listed.

Tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts

Tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts

Tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts

Tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts

Tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts

Tomshardware.co.uk/cpu/charts

Ok it get's beaten in most other things on there (a couple of ties though) but in most cases it's not by a massive amount. You did say show you a benchmark that beats the AMD cpu you chose. The 6420 can only be better than the 6400 so it may do a bit better.
 
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easyrider said:
why? when a 2160 @ 50 quid clocked to 3.2ghz poops all over it?
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That's assuming all E2160s can do 100% overclock... granted it's easy to get 3.2 in a hand of an experienced ocer with a decent enough mobo but as said many times before that only accounts for a very small percentage of all PC users.

easyrider said:
But then if he gets an intel mobo on p35 and a 6240 he is ready for penryn that will beat that AM2 in a couple of months time.
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Won't say that for sure yet as AM2 can also support future AM2+ chips just without the ability to control voltage of each individual core. A P35 mobo costs £100 atm while a decent AM2 mobo costs as little as £50.

easyrider said:
Buying AM2 is a bad move wether running stock or not IMO.
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IMO the upcoming price cuts is looking very attractive for stock users indeed.

OK so we established that if you want to overclock to get the best for your money then C2D all the way otherwise get X2 6000+ and have near E6600 performance for less out of the box. Now can we please move on :)
 
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Justintime said:
Its just a bit of payback for when we AMDers used to poke fun at their Prescott and other assorted Netburst crap :D
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Payback? AMD was entitled to poke fun at Prescott and Netburst because they were dire technologies which should never have been released.

Intel only managed to beat AMD by copying it. The C2D processor has far more in common with the Athlon64 than it does with the P4 and, without AMD showing them the way, they'd would even have that.

Come to think of it, what exactly have Intel invented recently? Nowt that I can think of. First they copied AMD's 64-bit extensions, then they copied the design concepts of the Athlon64. Next up will be the on-board memory controller and Hypertransport. Do Intel have any original ideas these days?

;)
 
Vertigo1 said:
Payback? AMD was entitled to poke fun at Prescott and Netburst because they were dire technologies which should never have been released.

Intel only managed to beat AMD by copying it. The C2D processor has far more in common with the Athlon64 than it does with the P4 and, without AMD showing them the way, they'd would even have that.

Come to think of it, what exactly have Intel invented recently? Nowt that I can think of. First they copied AMD's 64-bit extensions, then they copied the design concepts of the Athlon64. Next up will be the on-board memory controller and Hypertransport. Do Intel have any original ideas these days?

;)
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....wow...that post wasn't biased at all :rolleyes:

btw...just for your info...AMD had nothing to do with the current intel architecture; and in fact, it's not new at all.
 
gurusan said:
....wow...that post wasn't biased at all :rolleyes:
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Did you actually spot the winky at the end? I was having a light-hearted stab at the ridiculous numbers of Intel fanboys on this forum, who conveniently forget that AMD had been top of the pile for quite a few years before C2D came along.

I don't have the slightest bias. I've owned both brands and buy whatever is best at the time. I'm on AMD right now as my system pre-dates C2D but don't have a problem with C2D being the better processor. When my next upgrade comes due I will buy whatever is best, be that Barcelona, Penryn, Nehalem or whatever.
btw...just for your info...AMD had nothing to do with the current intel architecture
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No of course not. The fact that Intel are busy copying everything AMD do, such as 64-bit, higher work-per-cycle designs, onboard mem controllers and hypertransport is purely a coincidence, isn't it? Have a rolleyes back :rolleyes:

In seriousness, I know they both pinch ideas off each other and Barcelona will incorporate a lot of "tweaks" introduced by Intel with C2D. It does seem, however, that most of the major processor innovations over the past 5 years or so have been made by AMD, not Intel.
 
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To somebody that doesn't overclock, I'd suggest buying the cheapest gear available. Stick in a reasonable graphics card and *BANG* (or preferably not) you have a cheap, budget system that will bulldoze anything that cost twice/three times as much just a year ago.

People who overclock have a very skewed perception on the PC market, just as those who tinker with cars, lawnmowers, hi-fis, etc. have distorted perceptions over what is 'good'.

I bought a surround-sound system with an integrated DVD player for £250 that plays anything I put into it, yet my older brother will happily spend that much on a set of headphones because it makes the music sound 'better'. I don't deny it - they do - but not enough for me to warrant that kind of money on something I don't use very much.

For those who want to spend thousands on PC hardware, go for it. Just remember that not everybody will notice the difference between 45-60fps or a computer that does SuperPi in 15s as opposed to 25s... for the bloke who needs a computer to check emails on and surf the net? Buy a Mac.

Were I to buy a CPU now, I'd buy an Intel one, simply because they overclock better and will run X3 much better. But I wouldn't bother with Barcelona/Penryn just around the corner. And considering I haven't played a game for about three months, my websurfing Athlon XP does just fine.
 
Against the advice from certain forums I bought an X2 5200+ setup for my home server, it runs plenty fast enough to do everything I want to do and is *stable*. People chastised me for not buying a C2D setup saying "but... but.. get a C2D setup and it will overclock past 3GHz!". That's no good for a server, I demand stability and overclocking a server just isn't aceptable if you really need it to stay up. Also, at stock speeds temperature isn't an issue so it runs quieter which is an enormous boon.

For what I needed, the motherboard was a lot cheaper than an equivalent 775 one too.

Committing to AM2 gives me the upgrade path of the new AMD chips without the extra expense of a new mobo etc.. I can just drop the new cpu in and off I go.

The Intel route isn't the only route, especially if you aren't overclocking :)
 
I believe that they looked at a cpu that isn't for public release in a rubbish motherboard...
Until the real processors hit the market then everything is just rumours or mis-information.

Still, the concerns about clockspeed are worrying, hopefully they are wrong and the processors are capable of reasonable speeds upon release.
 
I just got a Brisbane 3600, an abit KN9 Ultra and 4Gb of Geil cas4 PC6400 for under £225. AM2 is good value at the moment, it's just a shame the price cuts didn't come at the same time that memory was at its lowest.
 
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