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AMD FX Bulldozer CPU clocked to 8429 MHz - World Record

come on, get the hell of it, how does the fact Bulldozer breaks a world record cooled by liquid Nitrogen and liquid Helium make any bit of difference, it doesn't! nobody uses that sort of cooling, guess what folks? a Ford Focus will do Mach 3 if you strap a Solid Rocket Booster to the top of it, but guess what, it make no difference because it has absolutely no real world relevance!

Well damn, I'll let you be the one to tell all those guys who have held the landspeed records 'thx for the efforts but they don't count because they're useless for the school run'
 
What makes the 2500K/2600K both so impressive is that they are actually fully stable at 4.6ghz+ and those are with your average retail chips and not cherry picked ones.

Soo in other words you are saying that if Bulldozers can be oc'd fully stable at 4.6+ghz with all "cores" active it should be equally impressive? For now what it seems this is going to be easy enough..

"Of most interest to overclocking consumers will be the assertion that 5GHz stable on air or <$100 water cooling solutions was routinely achievable with AMD FX processors."

Edit: youll hit 5ghz only with 10-20% of all Sandys. Those also must be cherry picked?
 
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Running as in stable or running as in 'software overclock it and take a quick screenshot of cpu-z before it crashes'? and how many cores?

What makes the 2500K/2600K both so impressive is that they are actually fully stable at 4.6ghz+ and those are with your average retail chips and not cherry picked ones.

Why not watch it or read the thread, its at 4.8Ghz, thats no the max the chip would do, it was running haven looped IIRC and it was all the cores.

As said when they actually tried to find the limits the lowest chip hit 5Ghz all cores, the highest 5.5Ghz, these weren't really cherry picked, they just had 60 chips and to get the record they just tested a bunch and basically picked out the lowest vid ones, as in, in socket, stick a heatsink on top, boot, whack to 5Ghz on modest voltage, get a pile of 8 chips and move on to ln2, etc, etc. THere wasn't 20 hours of testing in a AMD lab to find the one that does the highest speed at the lowest voltage. I forget the numbers, the 4th chip they tried hit the record, the others all did 8Ghz, thats pretty exceptional.

Normally records are done by testing dozens of chips for a lot longer, very often in daft conditions like in alaska in mid winter with the windows open and the like.

Also no it has no direct relevance to how you'd run a system 24/7, I've said that several times, I think everyone has, when did anyone claim it did, thats why they tested on what is very cheap watercooling, top air cooling, cheap phase change and the absolute best cooling you can possible produce.

But think of it like this, Phenom 2, max on air for almost all chips at later steppings, 3.8Ghz, on water, a bit but not much more, on phase, whatever it is, I don't know, and on ln2, 6.4-6.6Ghz I think.

The hexcore Phenoms which were another stepping with some seriously good power characteristics you were pushing a tiny bit higher on air, and just under 7Ghz on all cores under LN2.

Now we see that Bulldozer will probably max out around 5.5Ghz on the best chips on air(at least with early steppings, theres probably headroom on the process and they are switching to 28nm next year, so very soon), 6GHz on phase(though it was fairly weak phase by the looks of it, not a fancy phase change system), and 8-8.4Ghz on silly cooling. We're looking at anything between 1 and 2 ghz higher on any particular type of cooling really, 4Ghz on air for Phenom 2, 5.5Ghz for Bulldozer, how much more competitive would Phenom 2 be if every chip hit 5.5Ghz and had 4 more cores....... pretty damn good they'd be.

In itself, not particularly useful, but knowing the range of clocking and comparing to other chips, it gives you a helpful full picture of its scaleability and overclocking potential, that IS useful. Ultimately its the same chip, land speed records aren't done in Mini's and have utterly no relevance, the chip you and I will be able to buy, with enough cooling will do 8Ghz +, even if you can't ever get it that fast, it pretty much shows where we might end up on high end watercooling, the chip scales very well with both voltage and temps.
 
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Soo in other words you are saying that if Bulldozers can be oc'd fully stable at 4.6+ghz with all "cores" active it should be equally impressive? For now what it seems this is going to be easy enough..

It's too early to say until they hit retail, if 90% of the forum have 4.6ghz stable BD's on air cooling and with all modules enabled (like they do 2500K/2600K) then yes that's impressive. Intel could have probably come out with a 2600K with only 1 core enabled hitting 7-8ghz but really what's the point apart from trying to grab headlines and mislead? it's what the vast majority of retail chips will do that matters to us not just the cream of the crop in suicide runs.

Edit: youll hit 5ghz only with 10-20% of all Sandys. Those also must be cherry picked?

I said nearly all will do 4.6ghz which is the key point.. 10%-20% is a minority and chances are most 5ghz 2600k's on this forum are not actually fully stable under proper stress. point is you can buy a 2500K/2600K and be pretty much guaranteed 4.6ghz without needing dangerous voltage levels.
 
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It's too early to say until they hit retail, if 90% of the forum have 4.6ghz stable BD's on air cooling and with all modules enabled (like they do 2500K/2600K) then yes that's impressive.

Good, just making sure were on a same page here ;)

Intel could have probably come out with a 2600K with only 1 core enabled hitting 7-8ghz but really what's the point apart from trying to grab headlines and mislead? it's what the vast majority of retail chips will do that matters to us not just the cream of the crop in suicide runs.

8,429ghz is the new world record in overclocking, and for me personally this is a huge news as now we know theres plenty of potential with AMDs new cpu and in its architecture. It is telling me that they've made exellent chip. If the same result would be possible with Sandy Bridge it would have been done already. If not by Intel then by someone else, theres plenty of semi/professional overclockers in the world.
 
Soo in other words you are saying that if Bulldozers can be oc'd fully stable at 4.6+ghz with all "cores" active it should be equally impressive? For now what it seems this is going to be easy enough..

"Of most interest to overclocking consumers will be the assertion that 5GHz stable on air or <$100 water cooling solutions was routinely achievable with AMD FX processors."

Edit: youll hit 5ghz only with 10-20% of all Sandys. Those also must be cherry picked?

Still too early to say until we get full tests of official benchmarks including game tests etc...then we will know how well or bad BD does for its pricing and also compared to Intel.

I've seen so many leaked/faked unknown benchmarks that don't really say a lot ,so until we see proper official benchmarks from websites like Anandtech etc... I don't take what has been leaked/released serious at the moment.
 
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Either way my logic is.

If Bulldozer is good, there will probably be a bit of price realigning with Intel. I can look to see what is best bang for buck.

If Bulldozer is ok, there will probably be a bit of price wars with Intel. Again I look for best bang for buck.

If Bulldozer comes in at just under the Intel stuff, then it will be priced accordingly and I do the same as before.

But till then its just wait and see what happens. Although I am itching to move away from this thoroughly ancient Nforce 6 board now. (I figured there wasnt much point upgrading from a dual core e8500 until I found something that needed it. Only just now am I seeing stuff come out then wants to use quad cores)
 
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