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AMD GAME!

The_Abyss said:
Fail.

Even the pathetic Vista score makes this looks like pants.
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What the hell are you on about? :confused:

This is good because it brings simplicity to pc gaming and means when your average joe goes into a pc shop, they can see which pcs will play a game and which won't*, rather than wasting £300 on a pc that won't play anything because it was low price and they didn't know what to look for.

*Albeit with AMD/ATI graphics and processor :p
 
thats bit confusing it just will confuse people to buy phenoms with they are less powerful and do less good as q6600 in games and costs just 10£ less.

we need new sticker from intel to wohoo " intel gaming" i will stick it on my case and i will know that my machine will run games and it will cost me to buy more q6600 as it will have intel a sticker intel gaming........ thats what in mine opinion amd will do.

u need enlighten people with knowledge not with stickers if they go in some retailers and buy pc' for 5000 $ with 8500gt in sli with amd gaming sticker on it.

witch i seen some retailers put crazy price tags on pc like 200% profit.

i will just go to bed and i dont think its good idea its good for amd as they might get 1 % of more costumers but in the end of the day those customers who will buy that are lacking of knowledge of pc hardware and will be fooled to buy product witch is how would u say it less power (fps) per £. and just get money ripped of them
 
Seems like a good thing, if the systems with this logo come at a proper price, and not a bloated one. The normal Game! requirements are good but only if its cheap enough, Ultra appears very nice but i can see those systems being priced higher than they should. Anyway, i hope this works out and gets more people into PC gaming ;)
 
Excellent idea. I like it.

Not everyone has the time or motivation to understand what's going into their machines, or what else they will need in order to play games well. A simple badge structure like this will help joe public make an informed choice :)
 
psychas said:
thats bit confusing it just will confuse people to buy phenoms with they are less powerful and do less good as q6600 in games and costs just 10£ less.

we need new sticker from intel to wohoo " intel gaming" i will stick it on my case and i will know that my machine will run games and it will cost me to buy more q6600 as it will have intel a sticker intel gaming........ thats what in mine opinion amd will do.

u need enlighten people with knowledge not with stickers if they go in some retailers and buy pc' for 5000 $ with 8500gt in sli with amd gaming sticker on it.

witch i seen some retailers put crazy price tags on pc like 200% profit.

i will just go to bed and i dont think its good idea its good for amd as they might get 1 % of more costumers but in the end of the day those customers who will buy that are lacking of knowledge of pc hardware and will be fooled to buy product witch is how would u say it less power (fps) per £. and just get money ripped of them
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the only confusing thing in this thread is your post.

Even if the consumers are still paying more than us for hardware atleast they will be buying capable hardware, and not getting as ripped of as before.
Too many fall for the rubbish the 'experts' in PC World tell them, such as requiring a top of the range 8600GT to run the newest games at their best at an extreme premium, or the 128mb Graphics Processor in a cheap emachines PC being ok to play games on.

Helps Joe public a little, though in this day and age people are becoming wiser, and are using forums and searching to see what they should buy and how much it should cost.
 
Duff-Man said:
Excellent idea. I like it.

Not everyone has the time or motivation to understand what's going into their machines, or what else they will need in order to play games well. A simple badge structure like this will help joe public make an informed choice :)
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I think that was the whole point in the Vista Experience Index. Which I have yet to see on anything. Looks like AMD are going to set up a rival more confusing system.
 
I dont see how this can be percieved as confusing, it is mearly to simplify the buying experiance for the average joe in the highstreet.
If someone is looking to buy a cheap pc that plays games then they arnt going to fork out for a quad core amd system if there is a dual core system for a couple of hundred pounds less with a sticker on saying it will play the games they want; No one is going to be duped into spending more than they want if there are stickers saying "you can do this" on the cheaper ones.

The way I see it it's like nutrition labels on food in the supermarket, its only there to advise you, thats it and to be fair if you dont know squat then you need a little more advice then most of those purple ronnies down at the local pc store are ever going to give you!
 
psychas said:
thats bit confusing it just will confuse people to buy phenoms with they are less powerful and do less good as q6600 in games and costs just 10£ less.

we need new sticker from intel to wohoo " intel gaming" i will stick it on my case and i will know that my machine will run games and it will cost me to buy more q6600 as it will have intel a sticker intel gaming........ thats what in mine opinion amd will do.

u need enlighten people with knowledge not with stickers if they go in some retailers and buy pc' for 5000 $ with 8500gt in sli with amd gaming sticker on it.

witch i seen some retailers put crazy price tags on pc like 200% profit.

i will just go to bed and i dont think its good idea its good for amd as they might get 1 % of more costumers but in the end of the day those customers who will buy that are lacking of knowledge of pc hardware and will be fooled to buy product witch is how would u say it less power (fps) per £. and just get money ripped of them
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Is English your first language?

Anyway, I think this is a step in the right direction from AMD. There's too much confusion out there regarding specs and stuff. The average joe doesn't know or care what grahics card he has, as long as it's going to perform as well or better than a PS3.
 
I think this is a stupid idea. It will just lure people into a false sense of security. I think a better idea would be a free benchmarking utility that ran on people's PC and give it a performance index that would then be printed on the back of the game case so people could compare it to their system and make a judgement for themselves.
 
people dont need stickers. people usually look at the back of the box for requirements for the game. and they usually go and buy recommended requirements pc for a game. As we know on the back of the box there is two requirements shown minimum and recommended. They should stick a third one performance requirement, that can run the game on high settings. As every time you buy a pc game from a shop witch most people do they ask you did you read a requirements on the back of the box will you pc run it.

So imagine someone buys crysis and the recommended requirements of the back of the box is: vista/ xp , processor:2.8ghz for xp ,3.2ghz for vista, hardrive:12 gb, video card: 256 mb.

so for example the guy goes in a shop or he might have machine :

AMD Dual Core 5600+ 2.80GHz , 2 gigs of ram , and 8600gt 256 mb and he thins hell yea i payed 1500£ for this pc it should handle any game and even crysis. so he goes back home installs the game and it a lag fest on high. eventually he does not know why is that and gets angry and just forgets pc gaming and goes to play xbox or ps3.
 
i think minimum specs need to be more realistic. On a side note most people have broadband, why don't people just download the demo to see how it performs? thats what i do with most games, the system specs are nigh on useless.
 
psychas said:
people dont need stickers. people usually look at the back of the box for requirements for the game. and they usually go and buy recommended requirements pc for a game. As we know on the back of the box there is two requirements shown minimum and recommended. They should stick a third one performance requirement, that can run the game on high settings. As every time you buy a pc game from a shop witch most people do they ask you did you read a requirements on the back of the box will you pc run it.

So imagine someone buys crysis and the recommended requirements of the back of the box is: vista/ xp , processor:2.8ghz for xp ,3.2ghz for vista, hardrive:12 gb, video card: 256 mb.

so for example the guy goes in a shop or he might have machine :

AMD Dual Core 5600+ 2.80GHz , 2 gigs of ram , and 8600gt 256 mb and he thins hell yea i payed 1500£ for this pc it should handle any game and even crysis. so he goes back home installs the game and it a lag fest on high. eventually he does not know why is that and gets angry and just forgets pc gaming and goes to play xbox or ps3.
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Requirements on boxes are pointless. You are talking about people who still quote their hard drive capacity as their RAM and wouldn't know what graphics memory was if it fell on them.

Anything to simplify the process is good as it brings more people into the PC gaming experience and, crucially, it will be a good experience for them. It doesn't matter if people here could build a better PC for the same money, what matters is that they end up satisfied with their product and it does what they envisage.
 
Duff-Man said:
Excellent idea. I like it.

Not everyone has the time or motivation to understand what's going into their machines, or what else they will need in order to play games well. A simple badge structure like this will help joe public make an informed choice :)
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It's hardly an 'informed choice' when only AMD graphics cards and processors are listed as acceptable. It would better as an industry standard with the likes of AMD/NVIDIA/Intel all in it together rather than AMD going it alone.
 
its just marketing.. they're trying to position their inferior products by printing GAME! on them, simple. I don't blame them but its not exactly helpful. Its like when ATI/NV put things like "the ultimate gaming experience" on their bottom of the range cards.

Not sure what the alternative is because its true most people don't have the time or inclination to research the market but AMD shouldn't be appluaded for capitalising on that ignorance.
 
matt100 said:
its just marketing.. they're trying to position their inferior products by printing GAME! on them, simple. I don't blame them but its not exactly helpful. Its like when ATI/NV put things like "the ultimate gaming experience" on their bottom of the range cards.

Not sure what the alternative is because its true most people don't have the time or inclination to research the market but AMD shouldn't be appluaded for capitalising on that ignorance.
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indeed it is marketing, but its beneficial for the customer too.
Vistas experience index hasnt taken off so we need something else.

This is going to mean people going out and buying better graphics because they KNOW they will work with said games, strengthening industry, if it takes off there are no downsides.
 
psychas said:
thats bit confusing it just will confuse people to buy phenoms with they are less powerful and do less good as q6600 in games and costs just 10£ less.

we need new sticker from intel to wohoo " intel gaming" i will stick it on my case and i will know that my machine will run games and it will cost me to buy more q6600 as it will have intel a sticker intel gaming........ thats what in mine opinion amd will do.

u need enlighten people with knowledge not with stickers if they go in some retailers and buy pc' for 5000 $ with 8500gt in sli with amd gaming sticker on it.

witch i seen some retailers put crazy price tags on pc like 200% profit.

i will just go to bed and i dont think its good idea its good for amd as they might get 1 % of more costumers but in the end of the day those customers who will buy that are lacking of knowledge of pc hardware and will be fooled to buy product witch is how would u say it less power (fps) per £. and just get money ripped of them
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Joe public will likely in a blind test not be able to tell the difference between the two, and also might not know that the Intel is faster, so it doesn't make that much of a difference

It's aimed at the uninformed user, and actually sets pretty high standards for the uninformed user.
 
matt100 said:
its just marketing.. they're trying to position their inferior products by printing GAME! on them, simple. I don't blame them but its not exactly helpful. Its like when ATI/NV put things like "the ultimate gaming experience" on their bottom of the range cards.

Not sure what the alternative is because its true most people don't have the time or inclination to research the market but AMD shouldn't be appluaded for capitalising on that ignorance.
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How are they inferior products if they give the customer satisfaction and play the games they had in mind?
 
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