But you dismiss what those who have had one have said in favour of crap talk. Just change the record please bud
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But you dismiss what those who have had one have said in favour of crap talk. Just change the record please bud
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https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pali...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-013-pl.html
"Memory: 4096MB 7010MHz GDDR5" "Memory Bus: 256-bit"
512MB of that 4GB memory isn't GDDR5 running running at the memory speed in the spec, and memory bus being only 224bit for the 3.5GB of the "main memory" rather than 256-bit.
So you telling me that you are if a Intel i5 3.5GHz CPU has one of its four core only running at 1.0GHz, you would justify for them as well as they "didn't claim they are all going to run at the specified speed"?
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaawn ^^^
I understand if you bought one and had issues but you are just coming across as a fanboy and you are better than that
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Yea I should go buy a 980Ti and then continue my stance toward the 970, so that I would be a Nvidia user that appear to have some sort of weird bias against Nvidia similar to how GM appear to me as an AMD user that has some weird bias against AMD
(it's nothing personal, but that's just how he is perceived to me, and probably quite a few others as well).But as I said, I simply cannot believe how a business can get away with misadvertising and with people jumping in to defend it, even if we were not talking about a graphic card.
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Can we all atleast agree that "Overclockers Dream" was the most ill advised and without hindsight or testing, worst phrase, ever uttered about a GPU when referenced to the FuryX and its appeal to enthusiasts?
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Well ...
- the memory speed (mhz) IS the same across all the ram. It's the bandwidth that's affected by the split bus.
- The boxes dont state the memory speed and if they did (they dont, hence you not being able to find one), it would be base clocks or guaranteed overclocks which all cards manage anyway.
Very few people defended what nvidia had done. I think you confuse defend with not caring. We had the same performance before and after the issue was uncovered and despite just about everybody tell me otherwise, the only people really affected by it where sli users and i said from the beginning, totally valid reason to send them back. for everybody else, its a PR disaster but **** it my 970 still ran just as well. So i kept it, and i will keep it until it runs out of steam which will be before it runs out of ram. Return rates were rumored to be around 5%, so evidently there were an awful lot of other people also rather happy with their cards.
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That appears to be the Overclockers website not the 970 box as you previously stated.
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Oh come on you know it was figure of speech.
But if you want to be specific, I guess you could refer to the GeForce website as well:
http://www.geforce.co.uk/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications
GTX 970 Memory Specs:
Memory Clock: 7.0 Gbps
Standard Memory Config: 4 GB
Memory Interface Width: 256bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec): 224
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Not sure shooting for the top is the way AMD should be going (unless they've got one **** of a hand to play that would leave nVidia actually reeling) - the smart money with the current environment IMO is making sure they have solid, well priced GPUs in the upper mid-range, mid-range and lower mid-range tiers.
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Yea...the sub £200 price point for the new cards at the moment is actually fairly poor at the moment in terms of offerings.
If AMD can somehow capitalise in this price bracket while deliver good performing cards that are fairly low cost for them to produce, it could be a more realistic approach.
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Figure of speech? Like "Overclockers Dream"?
It's a fair point though and surprised it isn't detailed on the website now. While I would interpret it the same as you it doesn't say all 4GB is running at that speed. It does have 4GB VRAM and it does have a memory bandwidth of 224GB/sec, it just also has another one. It's like a bonus feature not listed on the box
And as for me seeming anti-AMD, I'm not, I'm just anti all the pro-AMD BS that we get on the forums. I don't need to be anti-Nvidia for that BS as there are more than enough people to call people on that. I do also defend AMD at times too.
There are plenty of people on these forums that own a brand but can see through the BS and seem anti that brand. Martini, humbug, tommybhoy to name a few.
There's also the fact that because I own more AMD tech I've more exposure to AMD tech and therefore can find more issues. If I complain about Nvidia tech I've no experience with I'd just be jumping on a bandwagon with the other lemmings.
Yea I should go buy a 980Ti and then continue my stance toward the 970, so that I would be a Nvidia user that appear to have some sort of weird bias against Nvidia similar to how GM appear to me as an AMD user that has some weird bias against AMD
But as I said, I simply cannot believe how a business can get away with misadvertising and with people jumping in to defend it, even if we were not talking about a graphic card.
Now you are just being childish but your last paragraph is quite correct in mis-advertising. They also mis-advertised the boost clocks and people were/are getting far more speed than what is stated.
Anyways, you get the point, so back to the topic at hand....Anyone feel AMD have something big coming or just talk?
It's just talk to try and get investor confidence and recover plummeting share prices. We all know they don't have the means or resources to keep contesting the leadership and the best they can hope for is to at least rival whatever Nvidia has up their sleeve next.
AMD are no longer going to revolutionise anything, they are in decline, and it seems like we have this exact same scenario each year now.
Yet they keep matching Nvidia in fps in big games at 4K. The only place they are in decline is PR, Drivers and Catalyst features like FRTC, VSR and things like HBAO+. All of these are easily fixed with some investment and good PR.
I am a semi Nvidia fanboy i guess, But i would still go back if they managed to pull off the fixes i wanted. I would sacrifce HBAO+ just to get rid of Afterburner and being able to do everything AB does within Crimson/Catalyst. Cmon take a look at the AAA+ games at 4K and see the difference which is around 1fps? Anything bar 4K should be irrelevant because 1080p and 1440p are dead men walking within 12 months. 4K G-Sync at around 90-100hz is going to be the go to resolution by the end of 2016 early 2017.
I am a semi Nvidia fanboy i guess, But i would still go back if they managed to pull off the fixes i wanted. I would sacrifce HBAO+ just to get rid of Afterburner and being able to do everything AB does within Crimson/Catalyst. Cmon take a look at the AAA+ games at 4K and see the difference which is around 1fps? Anything bar 4K should be irrelevant because 1080p and 1440p are dead men walking within 12 months. 4K G-Sync at around 90-100hz is going to be the go to resolution by the end of 2016 early 2017.
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its more like 10fps difference at 4K... which in and of itself wouldn't be a massive problem, but when the two cards are the same price, or the nvidia option even being slightly cheaper, it does spell problems
I remember a lot of people, including me, giving Nvidia a lot of **** for the 970 fiasco so it's not like they've been let off easily.
The thing you fail to realise is the fact that most people stopped caring because it hardly ever made a difference in gaming.
Why should I moan about it when I know that the card is not powerful enough to really push the memory at good fps? Especially that I wasn't able to replicate the problem in any game, be it at 1080p or 1440p, even in those with supposedly high vram requirements?
What they've done is hardly justifiable but it's been a year already. That 3.5gb talk is getting boring and many people still use the card without issues. AMD have had a fair share of screw-ups as well but nobody kicks up a fuss because they're AMD.
Back on topic: I wish AMD all the best this year and really hope they're going to push Nvidia out of their comfort zone, I was an AMD user for the past 6 years (7850 was brill!) or so and wouldn't mind coming back
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AMD drivers are not bad, There very good overall but there slow to release and inconsistent with support. We're often left without day one drivers and you find specific games in need of fine tuning for long periods. There's plenty of examples of games needing driver fixes for glitches and us having to wait weeks on end for the fix.
They need to get on the ball more with software support. A game should not have to be a big scream from the rooftops ""IT'S HERE"" title (GTAV) to warrant day one drivers.
Overall AMD do a good job, If they didn't I'd be on Nvidia but there is plenty of room for improvement, especially if they want to be considered as a Rolex brand.