AMD Kabini/Jaguar official review thread

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 24 May 2013 at 19:36

It seems AMD has been to conservative with the TDP too!

Harlequin · 24 May 2013 at 19:38

room to head downaward in the race to the bottom. Intel may have a bucket of money but are playing catchup with both arm and amd (below 5w for arm , and belw 25w for amd)

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 25 May 2013 at 00:19

TR review added.

eddyr · 25 May 2013 at 13:01

The rechreport review was a good read, a bit more feature detail than some of the others about its internal machinations.

olivier renault · 25 May 2013 at 14:02

I'm not one who values actual CPU performance in ultrabooks / netbooks / tablets. The performance needs to be 'good enough'. I've used, and continue to use a [email protected] notebook, and it still qualifies. I've used an old atom netbook (N510), and that was definitely lacking. The race to the bottom is not a bad thing in my book. In a netbook / ultrabook situation, if you can reduce the power consumption, improve compactness and cooling, but not at the expense of usability and crippling CPU performance, then all the better.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 25 May 2013 at 16:25

It appears Jaguar has 70% to 90% of the IPC of Llano:

http://codedivine.org/2013/05/25/amd-jaguar-vs-amd-llano-k10-at-same-clocks/

humbug · 25 May 2013 at 16:40

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It appears Jaguar has 70% to 90% of the IPC of Llano:

http://codedivine.org/2013/05/25/amd-jaguar-vs-amd-llano-k10-at-same-clocks/

I really don't know what to make of that.

All I know is Jaguar is at least 20% faster than Bobcat at slightly lower clocks and less power consumption.

Bobcat was fairly decent to start with, its a huge improvement and they are pretty impressive numbers in their own right.

I hope we will see the same improvements on the Desktop parts.

humbug · 28 May 2013 at 14:38

New AMD-Based Tablet PC Processor Wins 2013 "Best Choice of COMPUTEX TAIPEI" Award

New AMD-Based Tablet PC Processor Wins 2013 "Best Choice of COMPUTEX TAIPEI" Award
Elite Mobility SoC for Tablets and Hybrids, Codenamed "Temash," Recognized for Unique Achievements in Compute Power and Extended Battery Life
SUNNYVALE, CA--(Marketwired - May 28, 2013) - AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced its lowest-power accelerated processing unit (APU) for tablet, hybrid and clamshell notebook PCs is the winner of the 2013 Best Choice of COMPUTEX TAIPEI award, the third consecutive win for AMD. The award is given by the Taipei Computer Association, a driving force behind the annual event and the leading technology organization in the country.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 3 Jun 2013 at 12:09

Temash tablet hands-on:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget

It is made by Gigabyte.

Edit!!

NUC like boxes with Kabini in them:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7011/computex-2013-kabini-in-a-brix-haswell-too

humbug · 3 Jun 2013 at 13:23

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Temash tablet hands-on:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/03/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget

It is made by Gigabyte.

Edit!!

NUC like boxes with Kabini in them:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7011/computex-2013-kabini-in-a-brix-haswell-too

Some product wins, that Notebook in the foreground looks a bit flimsy.

Martini1991 · 3 Jun 2013 at 13:24

Hopefully Asus crack out some good AMD products for the coming months.

d_brennen · 3 Jun 2013 at 13:28

Roll on Kaveri

humbug · 3 Jun 2013 at 13:50

(written 01/06/13)

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...aps2c-shows-28nm-kaveri-for-socket-fm22b.aspx

Kaveri doesn't get GDDR5 anymore

Earlier this year we reported about Kaveri also getting a GDDR5 interface, a rather interesting proposition but imaginable considering AMD integrated the same memory technology into the silicon for Sony's Playstation 4. A newer version of the NDA documents seen by us no longer include the references to a GDDR5 interface. The document detailing the GDDR5 interface was from last year, while the newer one we have seen is only a few months old. It seems AMDs engineers for some reason dropped GDDR5 in Kaveri. The possibility of models with 3 compute units (i.e. 6 cores) was removed as well. This is also reflected in the roadmap.

Martini1991 · 3 Jun 2013 at 13:53

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's bad news right?

Harlequin · 3 Jun 2013 at 13:54

odds on its for cost - 2133 ddr3 support from the box would be useful

d_brennen · 3 Jun 2013 at 14:04

Martini1991 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's bad news right?

Bandwidth is the bane of iGPUs, so ya

humbug · 3 Jun 2013 at 14:20

Martini1991 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's bad news right?

Looks that way to me, unless they have something else in mind it will be bottlenecked by having to use system RAM.

Is this another example of AMD dragging its heels? how do you use Twitter? I want to have a word with Roy@AMD

Harlequin · 3 Jun 2013 at 14:21

looks like they might be going to MS route? with on die edram? ala xbox one?

d_brennen · 3 Jun 2013 at 14:25

Harlequin said:
looks like they might be going to MS route? with on die edram? ala xbox one?

While that would be awesome from a technology standpoint, eDRAM is hella expensive. A reasonable amount of eDRAM would be more expensive than throwing a few GDDR5 chips on a piece of PCB I'd wager. Remember, PCs don't have the closed box advantage of consoles, so 64/128MB of eDRAM wouldn't be enough, all IMO of course

humbug · 3 Jun 2013 at 14:27

Harlequin said:
looks like they might be going to MS route? with on die edram? ala xbox one?

That's quite possible, its working for Intel, 'Iris Pro'