AMD next-generation flagship of the end of the single-card dual-core debut

[drunkenmaster]

I just say what I see and that's a fair few peps with xfire problems many of who post on these forums, I have nothing against ATI, my previous experience with them was exceptional apart from the odd niggle. I genuinely want them to improve their drivers, as for " pop in any AMD thread " hardly.

Yet in a thread about new cards, you posted what, 8 words, having a pop at the drivers and didn't even feel the need to make a single mention of the new cards, that the thread was about.

I think maybe you'd find it you look back over your posts in the past 5 days, you'd see you've had a go at AMD and AMD drivers in almost every one, be it a thread about AMD, Nvidia, sli, xfire, new cards, old cards, etc, etc.

The biggest issue from drivers is, that people always think newer should be better and can't understand how a newer one could possibly be worse. Often new drivers are released for a specific reason, improving a problem in a specific situation, this might make it worse in another slightly, or require removing a previous update/fix as though that improved one thing, it made another worse, that is life.

Considering there have been all but perfect xfire drivers for months on end, and I've yet to have troubles with 10.7 with xfire, its clearly not bad for everyone and older drivers were great for almost every user.

You've also said yourself you had a near perfect experience, with a single card, yet other users post on here saying they are having a problem you never had......... so some people have problems while the vast majority don't, but all of a sudden, and ONLY since you went Nvidia, suddenly you're making vast completely inaccurate assumptions that one problem effects everyone.

Like for instance in another thread you claimed EVERY 5 series card suffers from flickering IN GAME under LOAD CLOCKS. You suggest, with no problems, that you never had this, almost no one has that, its most certainly not suffered by every 5 series and is almost certainly a faulty card, but you flat out claimed it was on every 5 series, and earlier in that thread you were doing your best to give the impression its typical of AMD.

 

[GJ02]

its raven, what do you expect
this is a guy who if you remeber completely hammered fermi cards in the launch approach and a good few weeks after release
now he has a 480 lol
we will just have to wait and see what ati give us.
im sure that we will not be dissapointed

 

[OpenToSuggestions]

Well I will keep my eyes out for these new cards soon then

My 4890 is a decent card that lets me play all games (except crysis and craply ported games like GTA4) full HD with AA and AF but I was looking to upgrade soon.

Would be nice if AMD released the mainstream first too. I would like to pick up the new high-end-but-keenly-priced card like the current 5850 is.

I do feel that those posting sarky comments about ATI drivers, with an Nvidia logo in their sig are just a bit lame really.

 

[mr griffin]

I had a ATI 4870x2 and the drivers for that were a nightmare for my rig and I swore I would never ever use multi gpu again and went back to Nvidia 280gtx. This time round I got a ATI 5870 and just for the hell added another and I have had no problems at all and performance is great as well. Now I'm getting the itch tho to try 3D I am never satisfied lol

 

[RavenXXX2]

Like for instance in another thread you claimed EVERY 5 series card suffers from flickering IN GAME under LOAD CLOCKS. You suggest, with no problems, that you never had this, almost no one has that, its most certainly not suffered by every 5 series and is almost certainly a faulty card, but you flat out claimed it was on every 5 series, and earlier in that thread you were doing your best to give the impression its typical of AMD.

I claimed 99% of xfire users will have some sort of flickering depending on which driver set they use, never mentioned single cards. For me with one 5870 the drivers were great apart from the time they decided to up my idle temps by 15c and having to edit TXT files to stop the clocks going up and down in not so intensive 3D games both of which is not a problem with Nvidia.

 

[An Exception]

from browsing the forum it seems xfire clearly seems to cause a fair few headaches for people, certainly more than sli which itself isn't perfect, but xfire has about 9 x more users of new gen cards compared to sli.

Fixed

 

[TAC4U]

The few problems I've had with Crossfire have barely been worth mentioning, tied down to specific games on older driver sets. And considering I read enough about regular bugs affecting people that's really not bad. I haven't come across any issues with my 5970 for a while.

 

[Phoenixdancer]

I claimed 99% of xfire users will have some sort of flickering depending on which driver set they use, never mentioned single cards. For me with one 5870 the drivers were great apart from the time they decided to up my idle temps by 15c and having to edit TXT files to stop the clocks going up and down in not so intensive 3D games both of which is not a problem with Nvidia.

So im in that 1%?

But... I dont simply have Crossfire

 

[An Exception]

I claimed 99% of xfire users will have some sort of flickering depending on which driver set they use, never mentioned single cards. For me with one 5870 the drivers were great apart from the time they decided to up my idle temps by 15c and having to edit TXT files to stop the clocks going up and down in not so intensive 3D games both of which is not a problem with Nvidia.

No, Nvidia just increased temps by 100oC.
Please refrain from aimless trolling...

 

[RavenXXX2]

And you're just full of it, just like you claimed your setup can spank 480 SLI yet put no real numbers up to compare, nuff said.

No, Nvidia just increased temps by 100oC.
Please refrain from aimless trolling...

Coming from someone that joined up this month and 80% of their posts have been spam lol

 

[Phoenixdancer]

Oh i forgot about that..

At least AMD dont make drivers that Actually kill cards...

 

[An Exception]

Sorry Raven if my other thread offended you, however in my honest opinion GF100 will be EOL in September/October when SI launch if they are not EOL already.

There will be little point in GF100 if it can't keep the single GPU crown, so I think we will see TSMC having 'strange' supply issues in a couple of months due to 'unexpected GF100 demand', yet see mountains of GF104.

 

[Final8y]

I claimed 99% of xfire users will have some sort of flickering depending on which driver set they use, never mentioned single cards. For me with one 5870 the drivers were great apart from the time they decided to up my idle temps by 15c and having to edit TXT files to stop the clocks going up and down in not so intensive 3D games both of which is not a problem with Nvidia.

And how did you come to that 99% because that just splitting hairs to claim that you did not say all because that's near as dammit is saying all.

Where is the source of your info.

 

[Phoenixdancer]

And how did you come to that 99% because that just splitting hairs to claim that you did not say all because that's near as dammit is saying all.

Where is the source of your info.

his MIND DUM DUM DUUUMMMM

 

[An Exception]

I wonder if we will see a utilised side port this time that was seen but not used in the 4870x2?

 

[jigger]

Dual Core --- Dual GPU --- HD6870 x4 ?

 

[An Exception]

It would be seriously cool if the could achieve some kind of 'hardware based raid' between the GPU's that don't rely on Xfire drivers, and then to be able to xfire another dual GPU card on top of the 'raid'...

 

[jigger]

Native dual core chips would hopefully put an end to dual card setups and games developers will have to write to suit the hardware. This would be a great move for PC gaming IMO.

 

[Duff-Man]

Native dual core chips would hopefully put an end to dual card setups and games developers will have to write to suit the hardware. This would be a great move for PC gaming IMO.

GPUs are already massively-parallel FPU processors - they are, in effect, multi-core processors already. It would make little sense to add two separate GPU "cores" on a single die, without having them interact directly (i.e. become one big core). Not to mention that this would further increase the heat-concentration issue that leads to high GPU temperatures.

 

[Lightnix]

Native dual core chips would hopefully put an end to dual card setups and games developers will have to write to suit the hardware. This would be a great move for PC gaming IMO.

That unfortunately would totally negate the benefits of dual chip cards for the manufacturer, in that they don't have to produce a very large, high risk (in the sense that proportionately many of the chips would end up being faulty and they'd have to sell them cheaper or throw them out which at double the size of say Cypress could potentially make the series a loss) chip in order to reach the next level of performance.