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AMD or not to AMD

We have to stay positive. We all know it will be a flop and will force AMD into further obscurity and push Intel closer to a monopoly in the desktop market, but we have to stay positive! :p
 
Getting OT, but

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The only thing going for them when they were kicking about was that they were cheap, and might have offered a slight edge over a Pentium or i3 in games or applications which make use of lots of threads.
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This is wrong, an FX-8 will get close to an i5 when rendering (e.g. Cinebench or x264, handbrake etc.) for half the price.

They also have incredible integer performance (because of the 8 integer units obviously) which shows up in some specific benchmarks (compression etc.)

See for yourself http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/698?vs=1544 That's a CPU from 2012 sitting only about 15-20% behind a brand new Skylake i5. In 7zip it's actually faster.

There's no comparison in these workloads between an FX8 and a Pentium, the AMD is a good 2-3x faster. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/698?vs=1265
 
Yup a lot of nonsense being spouted in this thread.

If he's already got an 8120, then he needs to OC it and then wait for either Zen or Intel to release a processor thats actually a decent performance step up from the 2500/2600k.

I get the feeling that all the 8 series hate was because people tried to run them on 4+1 VRM setup's and got throttled to hell but didn't have the technical knowledge to understand what was happening.

Can anyone provide an example of a game that throttles on a modestly OCed 8120 at 1080p?
 
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It was pretty crap, just apparently not quite as crap as I initially thought. :p

I remember all the reviews of them, how much they bottlenecked mid range GPU's compared to Intel CPU's which most people would automatically assume are worse etc.

Good and cheap for some kinds of tasks sure, for gaming not so much.
 
Its all about cost VS value though, any CPU will bottleneck if its got to run enough GPU resources.

The fact that these days multi-treading is much more common, and they overclock really well and that the OP already has one mean that his money may well be better spent on a GPU upgrade now and a CPU in 6 months time.
 
Yeah, in user CP I think.

Its a bit hopeless though, you can still see where they have posted, it just hides the post content (a bit like when you see that a mod has removed someones post) - and there is an option to show the post. So quite often curiosity will get the better of you and you'll see it anyway.

You can also still see their posts if someone quotes the post...
 
The i3 is just way overpriced. £50-60 per core is laughable today. At £25 and maybe it's worth considering the i3 depending how multi threaded your needs are. Obviously in anything slightly multi threaded the dual core will have problems.

Spending £100 on a stop gap CPU is a false economy. You might as well save and buy something like a Xeon 1200 or older quad core i5 or i7.
 
That's the conclusion I came to with a recent build. I was looking at a core i3 6100 for £110, but ended up going for a second hand Haswell i5 for £120.
 
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