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AMD Phenom IV X12 170 “Baeca” 25nm CPU Leaked – Has 12 Cores, 6 GHz Core Clock and AM4 Socket Compat

The TDP is not the reason this is fake, this could easily be a 12 Core ~3Ghz chip running an overclock.

People should do a bit more research before blurting ignorance simply because its AMD, if they did they would see that AMD have made some huge gains on the efficiency front.

There is more to AMD than Piledriver and Bulldozer.

AMD's lowest power 28nm chip is the A4-1200 dual core APU running at 1Ghz, its a 3.9 Watt chip, that includes the iGPU.

The highest power 28nm chip is a 2Ghz 4 core with a 25 Watt TDP, again including the iGPU.

That what's going in the PS4 and performance per watt on them is close to Intel's latest

Its quite possible now a days for AMD to make a 75 Watt 12 core Chip if it has no iGPU in it.

That's not why this is fake.
 
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I thought the PS4 was getting an 8 core chip!

I would like to see the Phenom come back, or next time AMD have something really really good to give it the Phenom name, the Phenom II was really quite a good chip and was quite a triumph in my opinion, overclocked well and lasted the time!
 
medseven said:
I thought the PS4 was getting an 8 core chip!

I would like to see the Phenom come back, or next time AMD have something really really good to give it the Phenom name, the Phenom II was really quite a good chip and was quite a triumph in my opinion, overclocked well and lasted the time!
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Yes, the PS4 is getting an 8 core, 8 Jaguar cores, its basically two A6-5200 APU's with the iGPU chopped off and then glued together :)

I agree on the Phenom II...
 
AMD must have found a huge supply of pixie dust somewhere. Lol. If this is in any way real I will eat my hat. 12 cores - maybe, 6Ghz - maybe, but at 75W I don't think so.
 
While i would deffo call BS on this rumour to, you cant say 6ghz@75TDP is the failing argument. CPUz doesnt say anything if its stock or someone taking the thing for a testdrive(OCing the bejezes out of it) which would leave the TDP showed at the same as stock.
 
It's a shame it is bs really.

Phenom II tweaked for ipc, more core and a higher stock clock on a die shrink would actually have my quite a strong chip.

The Phenom x6 wasn't that far behind/on bar with gen1 i7 in multithreaded tasks and not that much behind in single threaded tasks.
 
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Martini1991 said:
The IPC of the Phenom II was still a decent 15-20% behind the original i7's.
Multi-threaded was still very competitive.
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That's exactly my point. They had no need to go for a very multithreaded focused architecture like bulldozer as they we're already competitive. They should have focused on the IPC improvements to get the single threaded performance closer to Intels offerings.

As far as I'm concerned bd/pd are a step backwards.
 
Phixsator said:
While i would deffo call BS on this rumour to, you cant say 6ghz@75TDP is the failing argument. CPUz doesnt say anything if its stock or someone taking the thing for a testdrive(OCing the bejezes out of it) which would leave the TDP showed at the same as stock.
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That is a good point, I guess the original clock speed could be something like 2.6Ghz, but... '25nm' hints that this is bogus. Hopefully some legit Steamroller info will start to leak soon..
 
Frozennova said:
It's a shame it is bs really.

Phenom II tweaked for ipc, more core and a higher stock clock on a die shrink would actually have my quite a strong chip.

The Phenom x6 wasn't that far behind/on bar with gen1 i7 in multithreaded tasks and not that much behind in single threaded tasks.
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Yeah, the old P-II x6 is clock for clock actually faster than a Bloomfield / Lynnfield i7 with all core loaded up, and it runs cooler, pretty sure it uses less power to.

I have them both.

I would like to see an updated 28nm Phenom CPU, its AMD's best chip to date.
 
Davedree said:
Thuban was an brilliant effort considering what Amd had to work with.
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At the time of Bulldozers release I said I'd rather have seen a 32nm Thuban, possibly with 2 extra cores and a higher base clock/dual-single turbo modes. I do have a little faith that the architecture will continue to be tweaked and improved but AMD's move to higher and higher clocks to make up for the performance deficit is worrying.

Boomstick777 said:
That is a good point, I guess the original clock speed could be something like 2.6Ghz, but... '25nm' hints that this is bogus. Hopefully some legit Steamroller info will start to leak soon..
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CPUz having the CPU info in their database for the program to even detect the CPU is the biggest give away, let alone the node. Of late, AMD CPU info seems to leak from BONIC clients being quite talkative :p
 
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humbug said:
Yeah, the old P-II x6 is clock for clock actually faster than a Bloomfield / Lynnfield i7 with all core loaded up, and it runs cooler, pretty sure it uses less power to.
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Bit misleading to say the least, it's still slower clock for clock, it's just got more cores.

I agree with the sentiment that the 6 Thuban cores when loaded were fast (But back then, you'd barely ever use them) but to say clock for clock (Even with the when all cores loaded up is mentioned) is still kind of misleading.

Running cooler, AMD have that duff sensor, so you can't say that, its TDP was higher, so they didn't run cooler.

Using less power? Again, they never.

Thuban was brilliant, don't get me wrong, they really improved upon Deneb, I mean, by the end of their 45nm run, AMD's silicon was quite mature, but fud is still fud.
 
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