Now, but it’s a more granular question that it seems. Depend on the game and/or games/game engine, the API and video card.
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AMD Ryzen 5800X or 5900X
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Now, but it’s a more granular question that it seems. Depend on the game and/or games/game engine, the API and video card.
12 cores may make sense if you only upgrade every 5-10 years or so but to stay at the top your best spending less and going for a cheaper 6 or 8 core and upgrading every 3 years as next years 6 core will beat this years 16 core in games as shown by the 3950X vs 5600X so in 3 years time that zen 5 or 6 hex core will decimate Zen 3 CPUs like the 5900X in games.
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Interesting, hadnt thought of it like that
agree i went from a 2950x ( i know lot slower) to a 5900x at 4K noticed a good 25-40% bump.
AC oydessy before 75FPS after 110+ fps
this was mostly down to CCX on 29950X but noticed big gains even at 4K.
I agree with this, and I say this as a 5900X owner. My strategy in the past has typically been to upgrade the platform every say 2 years, buying midrange CPUs (most I'd ever spent previously on a CPU was £190). However I decided to push the boat out a bit with the 5900X, partly because it was on offer (£445) and partly because I saw how CPU limited some games were on my 2700X when I upgraded to the latest RTX series. Other factors included uncertainty around the supply chain issues going on with chips, and general plateauing of the performance curve (Moore's law) meaning it is taking longer to see performance double than it used to.
Oh and there was also a somewhat silly factor of not wanting to upgrade to a CPU with the same number of cores, i.e. if I upgraded from 8c16t I didn't want another 8 core.
also nice to have 8 dedicated gaming cores & some left over for windows
Example
playing GTA V - 10% @ 4K
playing GTA with Steam downloading with no download limits - 30% @ 4K
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I've not used enough different CPUs to offer a particularly broad opinion but I went with a 5800x earlier this year, mainly due to the difficulty of getting hold of anything else (and the large price difference between 5800 and 5900 that resulted for a while).
I was wary of temps given its reputation, but in practice (which is probably 50% gaming, 25% video editing and 25% various office apps) temperature hasn't been an issue at all. I've been using a 240mm AIO cooler and at no point has the CPU ever gone much above around 69-70c under heavy load, idling at around 28-33c. Playing WoW on my main screen, watching TV or YouTube on another screen along with a few other browser tabs open normally has the CPU sat at around 45-50c.
Other CPUs may be able to do this with lower temps but my point is that it's not exactly sat there glowing like a dodgy old soviet reactor so I wouldn't be unduly concerned about it.
I was wary of temps given its reputation, but in practice (which is probably 50% gaming, 25% video editing and 25% various office apps) temperature hasn't been an issue at all. I've been using a 240mm AIO cooler and at no point has the CPU ever gone much above around 69-70c under heavy load, idling at around 28-33c. Playing WoW on my main screen, watching TV or YouTube on another screen along with a few other browser tabs open normally has the CPU sat at around 45-50c.
Other CPUs may be able to do this with lower temps but my point is that it's not exactly sat there glowing like a dodgy old soviet reactor so I wouldn't be unduly concerned about it.
You can definitely get a small boost even from 12 but overall scaling for anything above 8c/8t is limited. Right now studios still use their old engine bases for games but even when they do their re-writes I don't expect a huge jump, and that's mostly because even for the top ones that did, like Doom Eternal, the situation still is similar. Games just are not that easy to scale unfortunately.
The good thing about AM4. You can always find a use for upgraded chips.
Having managed to buy a decent GPU I simply couldn't leave it sat unboxed until zen 3D so I grabbed a 5600X as a stop gap without actually realising they are really good chips for gaming. I'll stick with it until Feb then it's going on MM I think, unless it's so good I stick with it ( RL is preventing me building my new PC ).
I'm probably going to need a hand coming from a 12 year old sandy bridge 2700k, it's a long time since I've tinkered with bios settings
I'm probably going to need a hand coming from a 12 year old sandy bridge 2700k, it's a long time since I've tinkered with bios settings
Sorry I meant Real Life. The intention is to drop a Zen3D 5900X into it in February.
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I usually do upgrades every 3-4 years.
Will wait for the new chips in the New Year I think.
Will wait for the new chips in the New Year I think.