AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

[DigitalTwisted]

Not sure how it's future proofing though? future proofing doesn't really exist with PC hardware.

Well having the USB 4 and WiFi 7 now, means I'm ready for it later and none of the "restrictions" matter to me as I'm using Gen 4 drives as Gen 5 just isn't required. Plus I'd like to think we'll see the same multi year support of AM5 from AMD as they've shown with AM4.........you could well be right though, but at the end of the day I'm doing a full upgrade so I'm just going with the latest, maybe it's not the most optimal bang for buck, but that's fine for me, I'm not overly fussed.

 

[big_boss]

I was looking at the MSI PRO-X870-P only downside I could see (and a lot of boards have this or worse) if is you use the third M.2 slot it steals 2 PCIE lanes from the bottom PCIE slot (so down to PCIE4 x2 rather than x4)

I picked up an Asrock Taichi Lite, very nice board! I believe you can use all nvme slots and not affect pcie lanes with this one

 

[a4fecksake]

Would it be Worth the upgrade from a 5600x with a 3080 at 1440p, playing ‘competitive’ settings on games so to speak. Plan to upgrade GPU on next generation, so thinking it may be worth the leap to new CPU platform now?

 

[trickycurve]

Thanks all, will check out the recommendations mentioned!

 

[alec]

Looks like the 9800X3D isn't far behind the 14700 for power consumption while gaming in certain games as well, obviously with an efficiency advantage, though again less so at the kind of resolutions and settings people will actually be using.

Remember the 9800X3D full system consumption takes a handicap since it is faster - generates more frames - GPU has to work harder and contribute to power use.

 

[big_boss]

Would it be Worth the upgrade from a 5600x with a 3080 at 1440p, playing ‘competitive’ settings on games so to speak. Plan to upgrade GPU on next generation, so thinking it may be worth the leap to new CPU platform now?

I am noticing CPU limited sitatuations on CS2 with the 9900k OC'd to 5.0 on all cores. I built a 12600k rig for my brother and he is getting great frames overall with a 1070, so for competitive games I would say yes it is a great upgrade for you

 

[Michael Durrant]

Anyone got any motherboard recommendations for this launch?

i just ordered the x870e gigabyte aorus elite wifi7 not worried about lane sharing as i wont use all m.2 slots to comprimise the lanes.. for £285 i can spend the extra money which i saved not going for the master on something else.

 

[BornEvil]

i just ordered the x870e gigabyte aorus elite wifi7 not worried about lane sharing as i wont use all m.2 slots to comprimise the lanes.. for £285 i can spend the extra money which i saved not going for the master on something else.

I’ve got the same motherboard for 2 weeks waiting for the 9800x3d, very good board for the price imho, but looking back I would have got a x670 board to save a few more bucks.

 

[Cenedd]

I picked up an Asrock Taichi Lite, very nice board! I believe you can use all nvme slots and not affect pcie lanes with this one

Doubtful. There's 24 usable lanes of PCIE-5 and 4 lanes to the chipset. You can use 16 to the GPU, 4 to the first M.2 slot and the remaining 4 for either a PCIE slot or M.2_2. Anything else (LAN, sound, wifi, extra PCIE, M.2) comes out of a share of the 4 lanes to the chipset. If you're looking at any PCIE cards, it's worth checking how many lanes worth of actual pins are in the slots too. I was looking at a board with x16 slots but they only had pins for x1 or x4. Had to buy a newer 10Gbe card that was only x4 rather than x8.

 

[LtMatt]

AMD have just approved the warranty claim, fantastic service! Just got to ship the chip to their Czech office

Spoiler

 

[Hostile_18]

Thanks all, will check out the recommendations mentioned!

I use the MSI Carbon Wifi x670e I found that to be one of the best pcie lane wise, along with a few Asus boards. No compromises if fully populated.

 

[wascie]

Just an FYI regarding MB support for 9800x3d, I was concerned that my new Asrock X870e Nova Wifi would need a bios update and asked Asrock support, they informed me that my board would support the 9800x3d out of the box but there would be an optimized bios released in the coming weeks. Hope this helps.

 

[big_boss]

Doubtful. There's 24 usable lanes of PCIE-5 and 4 lanes to the chipset. You can use 16 to the GPU, 4 to the first M.2 slot and the remaining 4 for either a PCIE slot or M.2_2. Anything else (LAN, sound, wifi, extra PCIE, M.2) comes out of a share of the 4 lanes to the chipset. If you're looking at any PCIE cards, it's worth checking how many lanes worth of actual pins are in the slots too. I was looking at a board with x16 slots but they only had pins for x1 or x4. Had to buy a newer 10Gbe card that was only x4 rather than x8.

Sorry my point was that the Taichi does not support lane splitting. The top slot will always get PCIE5x16 and the bottom 5x8 regardless of how the nvme slots are used. This may be an issue if you are wanting to add a nvme pcie card but should be fine for a 10gig nic. My thoughts were that this mobo has a 5gig ethernet port so that will be enough for connecting to my server.

The other 3 nvme slots run at 4x4 and are ran through the chipset i believe

^ I may be wrong about the 2 pcie slots though - I plan to just not put anything in the second slot just to make sure and will be fine with 5gig

 

[Caragus]

Been a while since I was last here and had a to make a new account as I've lost the email to the old one.

A 9800X3D is going to be a huge boost for me. I'm still cruising along with my trusty 6700K, it's served me well but over the last couple of years it has lost ground and it's now at the point where time has caught up with it. I deliberately held off upgrading for 2 years to skip over the 13th/14th gen problems and with the disappointment of Arrow Lake, going AMD is a no brainer. At the moment I'm looking towards the Asus ROG Strix X870E-E and pairing that with the Corsair Dominator Titanium RAM (6000CL30). I know it's going to be an expensive upgrade as I'm basically starting from scratch again though I'm salvaging my 3080 and HXi1000w PSU from the existing build to keep the costs down as much as possible. The only thing I'm not decided on yet is if it's worth investing in a Gen 5 M2 or sticking with a Gen 4 for the C: as while it's faster on paper, that doesn't seem to translate into the real world outside of moving a lot of large files around from what I've read and comes with the extra heat.

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[wookiee87]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-has-been-overclocked-to-6-9-ghz OOF!!!

 

[cebri]

are there any benchmarks against older CPUs? Zen2, Comet Lake, etc. ?

 

[Cenedd]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-has-been-overclocked-to-6-9-ghz OOF!!!

At first glance, I thought that was an air cooler he'd managed to get 6.9GHz out of!

 

[BraXzy]

Considering this as part of an upgrade planned next year to replace my current 5600X + 3080 combo. What benefit do I get if I go with a mobo better than a B650? I've currently got the Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite AX on my buy list.

 

[Hostile_18]

Looks like there is an NDA, so my apologies for been down on the OCUK communication. According to other retailers even the 2pm list time they are not allowed to announce. Seems over the top.

 

[BraXzy]

If I'm gaming at 1440p, and plan to pick up a 4080S or 5080 when they drop, is there any point paying the premium on this? It's hard to parse all the benchmarks and improvement claims when the majority are 1080p low. What other options are out there that are more financially sound? I'm not against paying the premium to future proof but if it's pointless I'm also happy to save some money or invest it elsewhere in the build.