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AMD "Ryzen is Smoother" Misconception Benchmark & Explanation (Ryzen vs. Intel for Gaming)
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More follow up here: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgygwnCDuiDi9FRmVYJ4AaABCQ
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More of a fantasy web amd fans have spun up and gave credence to over the past couple of years without any evidence. Now, anytime an Intel chip is brought up that shows more gaming performance, they fall back on this “amd is smoother!” trope without any evidence whatsoever. He’s just calling that out in general and even goes into very specific scenarios in which that is actually true.
Well said, about time this was put to bed.
Still, the shills will attempt to write this off.
I think the issue came about in 2017, when Zen first launched and put the AM4 socket on the map, with 8 cores and 16 threads available, people comparing it to a top end Intel 7700K with only 4c/8t meant that something felt 'smoother', but fast forward a few years and the 'smoother' thing just stuck long after Intel finally managed to get out of the 7 year long release cycle of 4c/8t CPU's.
I'm pretty sure if you have an X99 system with a 6c/12t CPU and compared it with a 6700K etc. the X99 system would be 'smoother' due to all the crap going on with modern systems, I'm pretty sure Windows 10 telemetry takes up at least 4 cores these days.
I'm pretty sure if you have an X99 system with a 6c/12t CPU and compared it with a 6700K etc. the X99 system would be 'smoother' due to all the crap going on with modern systems, I'm pretty sure Windows 10 telemetry takes up at least 4 cores these days.
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Race bait thread, who cares, both game well.
Exactly /end
I think the issue came about in 2017, when Zen first launched and put the AM4 socket on the map, with 8 cores and 16 threads available, people comparing it to a top end Intel 7700K with only 4c/8t meant that something felt 'smoother', but fast forward a few years and the 'smoother' thing just stuck long after Intel finally managed to get out of the 7 year long release cycle of 4c/8t CPU's.
I'm pretty sure if you have an X99 system with a 6c/12t CPU and compared it with a 6700K etc. the X99 system would be 'smoother' due to all the crap going on with modern systems, I'm pretty sure Windows 10 telemetry takes up at least 4 cores these days.
You've hit the nail on the head
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Zen 3 should mostly sort this with the lower latency
Isn’t this proof the AM3 chips might have actually had some advantage. Maybe people didn’t care how much soother a FX chip was because it’s not massively noticeable.
It’s nice Intel have finally caught up with AMD for gaming smoothness. They just have to work on price, platforms, core scaling, power use, security, IPC...
I think the issue came about in 2017, when Zen first launched and put the AM4 socket on the map, with 8 cores and 16 threads available, people comparing it to a top end Intel 7700K with only 4c/8t meant that something felt 'smoother', but fast forward a few years and the 'smoother' thing just stuck long after Intel finally managed to get out of the 7 year long release cycle of 4c/8t CPU's.
I'm pretty sure if you have an X99 system with a 6c/12t CPU and compared it with a 6700K etc. the X99 system would be 'smoother' due to all the crap going on with modern systems, I'm pretty sure Windows 10 telemetry takes up at least 4 cores these days.
And he knows this, a lot of reviews called the Ryzen CPU's smoother.
He would get more credit and less grief if he just made a video explaining this instead of behaving in exactly the same combative way as those this video is aimed at, he is the other side of the same coin. Only he has a platform.
Hm, the 10600K is the best sensible Gaming CPU, it's just as good as the higher end Intel CPU's only its cheaper.
I like this CPU, I think its very good and Steve is right to recommend it.
The thing is the 3600 still outsells it massively and Steve will see this through his affiliation links in all his videos.
Why is that? Because in the real world +10% performance in games (2080ti at 1080P) is not worth £100 more money, in the real world its too expensive for what it is, so no matter how much Steve Burke wants this new i5 to be the new i5 from yesteryear's Intel it was never going to be that.
The Ryzen 3600 is still very firmly that.
Games must be the worst software out there.
A 15-watt Ryzen 7 4800U scores as many as 17582 points in PassMark. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+Ryzen+7+4800U&id=3721
A 125-watt Core i5-10600 scores as low as 14865 points in the same benchmark. https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-10600K+@+4.10GHz&id=3735
Or 1172 points per watt for the Ryzen 7 U, and only 119 points per watt for the Core i5.
GN has been very active recently with stupid things against AMD. Must be paid by Intel lately.
there are a lot of intel market money being poured into Tech youtubers lately.
LLT, GN, Jay2cent all got a lot of videos on their channels lately about intel. some with a lot of intel sponsored content. it wouldnt be a far strenth to imagine that there is some kind of clandestine campaign on these channels backing intel atm as intel is clearly not doing great but has loads of cash.
watch these content but with massive pinch of salt. it is all fuss about 5% frame gain which makes no difference to anyone.
there is no paradigm shift in the current CPU market between AMD and Intel since the launch of Ryzen 3. if you watch their content from then to now, the opinion shifts from one end to another like an american politician - strikes as LACK OF PRINCIPLES. whoever pays they will sell out, or sometime whoever doesnt pay they will grass out.
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Intel has always "won" against Ryzen in the "gaming" benchmarks,but it appears it has not really affected AMD DIY sales that much. Intel locks down their platforms way too much and core for core AMD is cheaper,so many gamers know,if they save on the CPU,they can get a quicker GPU.
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