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AMD smoothness tested.
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Interested to know how you think the results were skewed...
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The challenge was asking people which machine they preferred to play on. A more interesting test IMO would be to take 1000 or more volunteers, not telling there was a difference in hardware manufacturer, just CPU model, and have the repeat the test 3 times with the machines switched places on each three tests.
I wonder which machine was first in line and how that effects the users perception. On second play you'd know what the game wants from you (assuming you hadn't played it before, not used to Eyefinity etc) so maybe the gameplay "seems better"
tl;dr not big enough sample, not enough testing
Agreed. This was hardly a controlled, balanced experiment... And therefore ultimately useless.
August 2010? Try harder.
So facts disappear when an year or two pass? The only important thing here is that this is about BD and that was about BD.
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I have to admit, I do find AMD rigs to feel very "smooth" i raised a thread on it a while back as there were some other people that agreed, it got shut down as being ****** but I do really think the AMD experience is smooth in games!!!
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Yes, the post is complete crap though, actually click on the post linked to by JF, he's comparing the FPU to Sandybridge, NOT to magnycours, yet the post is calling him a liar because apparently he's saying Bulldozer has more FPU power than a magnycours......... he never said this in the post.
The bit they even quoted and decided to call him a liar........ isn't a lie. Its ridiculous.
His next claim also links to a post where, JF did not lie, he's just being ultra pedantic when JF wasn't and it was 100% clear what JF is saying.
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The author of the blog has had a dislike of AMD for years. Someone else on OcUK linked to his blog a few months ago and I read through it(what a waste of time). He also deleted loads of comments on his blog entries when people questioned what he was talking about(even the article linked to has 7 out of the 11 responses deleted).
AFAIK, he was banned on Beyond3D and he frequents the comments sections of articles on many websites like Anandtech(especially those to do with AMD).
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He did gauge BD performance very accurately though, at the time he wrote that we were all still fooling ourselves that BD would actually be good and AMD were doing nothing to play down hopes, hell two months before release I had a Sabertooth all ready expecting AMD's 8 core BD to be giving Intel's hex CPU's a run for their money.
Unlike a lot of people out there he actually has a background in engineering and knows what he is talking about. Who cares if he was banned on Beyond3D or any other forum? That makes no difference as to whether he's right or wrong about something.
He took Beyond3D and a few other sites to task on false information they propagated in the past having to do with PhysX and x87/SSE/AVX optimization and its performance. And unlike many who have no real technical background and base their reasoning on conjecture, he proved his case with hard numbers and actual results. Beyond3D decided to completely ignore that information for a good while before finally making a token acknowledgement of it. Which in itself is dishonest.
And here's the follow up to the original link: http://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/amd-agrees-john-fruehe-is-a-liar/
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There are cases when a certain person has been correct about Nvidia many times in the past and yet you call them shills paid by AMD/fanbois.
Also it does not change the fact the blog owner has deleted multiple posts on his own blog which has questioned what he has said(I was actually following one for a while) - he has even been on the comments of several articles whinging about AMD.
You have offered no explanation to why the results in the OP have turned out the way they are,yet instead link to some article about a server marketing guy who himself admitted he screwed up.
Whats that got to do with the OP then?? Now do you think HardOCP have twisted the results as they set everything up?
Using your logic, no one should also trust whatever Intel or Nvidia ever say and YOU should quote claims which they made were wrong too. If you go back far enough each company has made claims which ended up not being entirely true. God forbid that marketing tries to make their product look better shocker. That is the objective way don't you think?
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If you bothered to look,the game run was BF3 BTW which is GPU limited for the single player missions.
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Providing the computers are all equal apart from the CPU and motherboard,there could be a way to influence the vote. For instance the first setup to be played could be the Intel one and the last setup to be played was the AMD one. People will have a better memory of the gameplay experience from the last rig and it might preclude them to think the second one was better(even if both were the same in BF3 single player which is most likely).
The other alternative is that it is indeed smoother,although if it was it would need to be quantified.
The other alternative is that it is indeed smoother,although if it was it would need to be quantified.
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Ooohh nice thinking. That can and does indeed happen.
Why on earth would it preclude them to think the second one was better, instead of worse? What a ridiculous comment
Is it, the last memory/experience is often the most remembered.
Sorry but unless you have extremely short term memory loss I think you'd be able to select which one felt smoother.
If both were EXACTLY the same (and the IQ on the BD/SB rigs would be) the last would be freshest in your memory. Also for first timers in the game there is the "I sucked" factor. The first time you take on a level you maybe don't know where to go or what to do, the second time you're like an action hero
No, I think the problem here is Intel fanboys don't want to admit there isn't much difference between AMD and Intel rigs in games. Benchmarks, yes Intel slaughters AMD, but in years of switching between the two I can honestly say the equivalent CPU from either Intel or AMD will play the games fine with a decent GPU.
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16% at 1920x1200 with a 7970 comparing a stock 2500k and stock FX8150 according to tech power ups overall graph.
But that's not what we're getting at, it's the fact a vast amount of people haven't said "No difference", which doesn't make sense, since we're all agreed, to the naked eye, there isn't much difference in gaming.
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