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AMD THREADRIPPER VS INTEL SKYLAKE X

I was studying an article tonight about the impact of the Nvidia drivers MT over Ryzen and had a weird thought.

All the benchmarks for the X299 platform were done with Nvidia cards. Not one I have seen with an AMD card, even RX580.


We know that there is an issue with the NV drivers and the Ryzen topology going on since March, and NV hasn't pulled the finger to fix it.
However since the new topology of the SkylakeX/KabylakeX isn't that different than the Ryzen one (according to the Intel spec sheet about NUMA, cores layout and optimisations), seems like is the reason SkylakeX & KabylakeX performance tanks compared to the 7700K. Nothing to do with the games, CPU or anything else. Just pure Nvidia laziness to optimise their drivers.......

Just a though.
 
Ok all just to show some memory that is compatible with Threadripper in 32gb and 64gb capacity. Then users can buy and know what they get is working from launch Bios. 4x8gb 32gb No problem upto 3333mhz at C14 XMP setting and 8x8gb 64gb no problem at 2933mhz XMP Setting. The key is Samsung IC it seems then no issues. Other ICs which I tried mixed results. Diffucult to get stable even 4 x 4gb at above 2666mhz. All the pics shown are on ASUS Zenith with 8Pack 3200mhz kit which will always be Samsung IC throughout its lifespan unlike some other SKU which switch. I also tried 3200mhz 4x 8gb on Gigabyte which also worked fine Taichi incoming so will try all combinations on all boards given time. Performance results I cant show yet and always observe NDA.






The Vortez review of the memory is here: https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/team_dark_pro_8_pack_edition_review,1.html
WTB is here: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/team...3200mhz-dual-channel-kit-black-my-08l-tg.html
For 32gb I used two kits for 64gb I used four kits.
 
Panos said:
Just pure Nvidia laziness to optimise their drivers.......
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It may not be that simple - the drivers use a variety of threading techniques to work around API and OS inefficiencies there might be limitations as to how much they can take control over how the OS handles that threading so as to avoid penalties and/or a way of fixing it for one type of CPU might not translate to other CPUs making it time consuming and complicated to come up with a solution for.
 
Panos said:
I was studying an article tonight about the impact of the Nvidia drivers MT over Ryzen and had a weird thought.

All the benchmarks for the X299 platform were done with Nvidia cards. Not one I have seen with an AMD card, even RX580.


We know that there is an issue with the NV drivers and the Ryzen topology going on since March, and NV hasn't pulled the finger to fix it.
However since the new topology of the SkylakeX/KabylakeX isn't that different than the Ryzen one (according to the Intel spec sheet about NUMA, cores layout and optimisations), seems like is the reason SkylakeX & KabylakeX performance tanks compared to the 7700K. Nothing to do with the games, CPU or anything else. Just pure Nvidia laziness to optimise their drivers.......

Just a though.
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What's odd is that despite this Ryzen performance issue, nVidia has AMD options for their Battlebox PCs....
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/battlebox/
 
Panos said:
I was studying an article tonight about the impact of the Nvidia drivers MT over Ryzen and had a weird thought.

All the benchmarks for the X299 platform were done with Nvidia cards. Not one I have seen with an AMD card, even RX580.


We know that there is an issue with the NV drivers and the Ryzen topology going on since March, and NV hasn't pulled the finger to fix it.
However since the new topology of the SkylakeX/KabylakeX isn't that different than the Ryzen one (according to the Intel spec sheet about NUMA, cores layout and optimisations), seems like is the reason SkylakeX & KabylakeX performance tanks compared to the 7700K. Nothing to do with the games, CPU or anything else. Just pure Nvidia laziness to optimise their drivers.......

Just a though.
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Do we know that as a fact or is it just speculation because Ryzen is a bit slower?
 
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