tbf with B650 having 2 models I was wondering if overclocking would be restricted after all Intel restrict overclocking on lower boards happy AMD havent followed
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AMD to unveil Zen 4 CPUs at CES 2022
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I expect the 13900k to be way cooler than the 12900k at same wattage.On billibilli they are saying zen4 thermal throttles, 7950x tries to but can't maintain 5ghz all core as it bounces off the 95c thermal limit. 7600x gets up to 90c. This is using a 360mm AIO cooler on both chips. The 7600x pulls 120w and 7950x 230w, both chips stock. They're also saying Raptor lake runs cooler than zen4 (82c for a engineering sample 13900k on same 360mm AIO) - which I suppose makes sense, AMDs small chiplets means it has a higher heat density and iirc AMD said zen4 chiplets are even smaller than zen3 which means again more heat density
AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs Reportedly Run Hot, Ryzen 9 7950X Hits Up To 95C Thermal Threshold at 230W, Ryzen 5 7600X Up To 90C at 120W
AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs including the Ryzen 9 7950X are going to run really hot and consume the full package power as reported in a rumor.wccftech.com
And yes, zen 4 will be hot. As long as it doesn't throttle, it's fine.
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Very easy to run into the heat spreader being the bottleneck. Once there, the cooler on top will make little difference unless you are creating significant temperature delta's.
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Not really, no. I expect minimal differences between a 360 custom WC and a freezer 34 on a 7600x.
If that's the case then there will be no real overclocking headroom on the chips.
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And you think temps will be the reason? The chips supposedly boost up to 5.5+ ghz, what overclocking would you ever expect on doing there? LOL
With zen 3 the all core clocks would boost higher if kept cooler.
Overclocking? Chips nowadays are already pushed to the limits out of the box and using more power so not much to overclock for everyday use them days are pretty much gone
it's moving onto different ways to increase performance
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it's moving onto different ways to increase performance
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Check out how the new Precision Boost Overdrive 2 can improve your AMD Ryzen™ 5000 Series processor’s single-thread and multithread performance through new f...
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Features like PBO have made overclocking redundant for most people.
I remember watching a video from Hardware Unboxed who were overclocking a Zen 2 chip and while it could be overclocked performance in things like games and lightly threaded applications was worse then what you could achieve with PBO. After watching that video I bought a 3600 CPU but I've never bothered with overclocking it and just left everything at auto (besides memory speeds).
I remember watching a video from Hardware Unboxed who were overclocking a Zen 2 chip and while it could be overclocked performance in things like games and lightly threaded applications was worse then what you could achieve with PBO. After watching that video I bought a 3600 CPU but I've never bothered with overclocking it and just left everything at auto (besides memory speeds).
Alh now thsi si where you should no what to do, as you like to say, just have to tune teh system, a little PBO, a bit of curve optimiser and set some PBT EDC values and off you go, temp reduction and higher clocks
Adaptive clocking is the way to go, all Asus x670e boards have it, let the cpu do it's thing in single core and set your own clock and voltage for multicore.
Here is a 7600x, at stock it hits 93c.
Then he did manual settings, dropped the voltage and achieved the same clockspeed but now it runs 40c cooler
Here is a 7600x, at stock it hits 93c.
Then he did manual settings, dropped the voltage and achieved the same clockspeed but now it runs 40c cooler
Get your water cooling ready guys, we have cinebench scores for different coolers and its a doozy.
7950x cooled with air cooler, thermal throttling and ends up with the same R23 score as my 5950x on PBO
Then same CPU but with 360mm AIO cooler, 20% higher performance just from better cooling and no more thermal throttling.
7950x cooled with air cooler, thermal throttling and ends up with the same R23 score as my 5950x on PBO
Then same CPU but with 360mm AIO cooler, 20% higher performance just from better cooling and no more thermal throttling.
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I very much doubt anyone would be buying a 7950x and using anything less than a 360mm AIO.
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Really? Im using a small single tower cooler on my 12900k
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Although the newer platform is better, it simply seems like most consumers won't need it?
Ryzen 5000 already is not bottlenecking anything in gaming, it is very fast for professional work too plus we have the very competitive intel 12 series too.
I dunno if it is just me but both 13th gen and Ryzen 7000 seem superfluous? At least at this current time.
Ryzen 5000 already is not bottlenecking anything in gaming, it is very fast for professional work too plus we have the very competitive intel 12 series too.
I dunno if it is just me but both 13th gen and Ryzen 7000 seem superfluous? At least at this current time.
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I want x58 overclocking back.
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A CPU that works better with better cooling, wow, amazing, that's new, no way anyone would have figure that out without his extensive expertise.
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