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AMd tri core gaming vid

Wow, what a fanboy video that is !!!
I can see what hes saying but intel doesnt really do gaming integrated gfx ?

The main thing that shows me is that you need a gfx card !
 
errr...

did i miss something, triple core??

are these just failed quads as the have the phenom name attached to them

edit: 44 fps average, 100 fps max, 15!!! fps min. bit variable

edit2: the sims benchmark lol
 
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Sorry... i must take a different stance on this one!

I know that Intel are winning the high end and budget war right now... i would kill for either a tasty high end c2d or a nice wee highly overclockable budget one :D *drool*

But looking at that makes things seem quite interesting for the market that they are looking at! To get graphics like that built in with the motherboard is quite something IMO... and i feel there is a market out there for that! The ones who cant afford a high end anything... that kinda low cost system with the capabilities of that one would be awesome!

Just a thought...! Something Intel should really step up too actually, im sure they will in time! :P
 
its all cycles really

AMD started by making generic chips

then started wooping Intel's ASS and im shore a lot of people used to be old die hard AMD fans.

AMD got duel core technology out first

Intel still don't have a clue and just stick two very hot P4's on one CPU.

Intel get the act together, come out with the C2duo which is vastly better than AMD

they stick two of these on one CPU and the first quad is born, and its really good

AMD take to long to get there native quad to market, and it isn't that good

AMD now look to take the budget market now, thats got to be 40% of the market, if i assume business is about 55% and we make up about 5%
 
I think they should've done E6550 vs. 6000+ to be honest, far more comparable processors that at stock are pretty much the same.

However, I think they targetted the video more at OEMs than anyone else, as Intel is by far the most prominent integrated graphics provider. Also interested in the prices of the AMD 8000 series now...
 
This kind of thing is exactly what Mark Rein (Epic) was going on about in his rant about PC gaming- that coding for consoles is better because they all have 'high-end' graphics cards.

PC games don't sell as many units per home PC out there because, there are too many home machines that have budget graphics cards. Consumers just can't abide how rubbish games look/run when played on £300 specials with integrated graphics. Then they'll scoff when told to spend the same amount again on a new graphics card. Not to mention the power supply, then the case and motherboard etc.

I think if the low end, really cheap chips are still 'decent' then PC gaming will get a massive boost.
 
Bossk128 said:
This kind of thing is exactly what Mark Rein (Epic) was going on about in his rant about PC gaming- that coding for consoles is better because they all have 'high-end' graphics cards.

PC games don't sell as many units per home PC out there because, there are too many home machines that have budget graphics cards. Consumers just can't abide how rubbish games look/run when played on £300 specials with integrated graphics. Then they'll scoff when told to spend the same amount again on a new graphics card. Not to mention the power supply, then the case and motherboard etc.

I think if the low end, really cheap chips are still 'decent' then PC gaming will get a massive boost.
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Definitely. Although I think Mark Rein's rant was a load of twoddle... There is currently a significant niche in the market for cheap integrated graphics solutions that will play new games at a playable framerate.
I think this will certainly give a boost to PC gaming on the whole if it's successful.
 
russ0r said:
Definitely. Although I think Mark Rein's rant was a load of twoddle... There is currently a significant niche in the market for cheap integrated graphics solutions that will play new games at a playable framerate.
I think this will certainly give a boost to PC gaming on the whole if it's successful.
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I agree entirely but the question is how can this be communicated to the buyer ? What standard can be applied ? If you buy a Ps3 or a Wii, you know it is capable of playing all the games released for those respective systems, no fuss.
On this sort of forum, everyone rants on about how competition delivers the best value to the buyer but overall what PC gaming needs is exactly the opposite ; a single top down, dictatorial standard applied by an organisation with the power to enforce it as compulsory.
PC games need a very simple (1 to 5) scale on the box of the pc or graphics card which matches a scale on the game box, maybe somehow adjusted for the passing of time ? I don't pretend to be intelligant enough to know exactly what that standard might be or how it could be applied but it's pretty clear it is badly needed.
Perhaps it could be implemented via software, whereby the user could download a program, run it & know what games he/she could expect to run at what sort of standard (like the vista experience but with some relevence to actualk games performance).
 
craig_kennedy83 said:
Sorry... i must take a different stance on this one!

I know that Intel are winning the high end and budget war right now... i would kill for either a tasty high end c2d or a nice wee highly overclockable budget one :D *drool*

But looking at that makes things seem quite interesting for the market that they are looking at! To get graphics like that built in with the motherboard is quite something IMO... and i feel there is a market out there for that! The ones who cant afford a high end anything... that kinda low cost system with the capabilities of that one would be awesome!

Just a thought...! Something Intel should really step up too actually, im sure they will in time! :P
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Not really, they've just got a load of lemons and are now making lemonade with them..

They CAN'T compete at the high end, and they CAN'T compete at the other place your talking about....

So they're almost creating a new market that they can compete in, plonking in some (relatively) power integrated (but still crap) graphics and saying....

Oh looky here!

Its a load of ********, would have given them a lot of credit for this if they'd have done it A YEAR AGO! When it actually would have helped the company and their image a lot...

Mght be too late now :)
 
Quixote said:
I agree entirely but the question is how can this be communicated to the buyer ? What standard can be applied ? If you buy a Ps3 or a Wii, you know it is capable of playing all the games released for those respective systems, no fuss.
On this sort of forum, everyone rants on about how competition delivers the best value to the buyer but overall what PC gaming needs is exactly the opposite ; a single top down, dictatorial standard applied by an organisation with the power to enforce it as compulsory.
PC games need a very simple (1 to 5) scale on the box of the pc or graphics card which matches a scale on the game box, maybe somehow adjusted for the passing of time ? I don't pretend to be intelligant enough to know exactly what that standard might be or how it could be applied but it's pretty clear it is badly needed.
Perhaps it could be implemented via software, whereby the user could download a program, run it & know what games he/she could expect to run at what sort of standard (like the vista experience but with some relevence to actualk games performance).
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lol, isn't that very scale you talk of included in Vista ;)

Only it goes 1-6 not 1-5 :p

They should have done this when they got hold of ATI, way too late now, well its not too late. But it would have been a much more effective strategy instead of this phenom BS.
 
The point of the 780 chip and the intergrated grapics 3200 that comes with it is to increase market share in HTPC and in the work place. It is nothing to do with crysis and geeks with there games. The money is in IGP and getting in the office market.
 
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