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AMD Unveils "Barcelona" Architecture

We're all making the same mistake here. Overclockers are a complete irrelevance (us not the company!) We're not a financially important part of their budget - we don't buy enough

We don't even scratch the surface! The K7's and K8's slaughtered the
P4 in terms of overclocking, and we all loved them, but we only accounts for a miniscul minowy slice of the market. Intel have still held onto the bulk of the market share. Why? Because it's never been about performance at the enthusiast end. It's about marketing and good business partners.

Does no one remember a time not so long ago when you couldn't get an AMD cpu on the high street, not to mention in a pre-built machine for mainstream users? You could only get em on specialist sites like this one. Now they're everywhere.

AMD have done very well to steal a chunk off Intel. It's cost them an awful lot of money, but with a good slice of the market and a new cpu line on the way, they should do very well over the next 2 years as long as they operate savey business practices.

As for overclocking? Well we're the only ones who care. And we won't even put the tinyest dint in the market.
 
We don't even scratch the surface! The K7's and K8's slaughtered the
P4 in terms of overclocking, and we all loved them, but we only accounts for a miniscul minowy slice of the market. Intel have still held onto the bulk of the market share. Why? Because it's never been about performance at the enthusiast end. It's about marketing and good business partners.

Wasnt P4 by far the superior 'overclocking' chip.. Problem was even if you got 5/6/7Ghz with LN cooling P4 was such a mundane performing chip you were still better off using a mildly clocked AMD.
 
If you are going to be a smart ass you might as well spell 3 letter words correctly.
Everyone knows that AMD are in huge trouble. You don't make a quarterly loss of $600m on $1.4b turnover and turn it around overnight. They got a few quarters to turn it around before they are out of cash, as they spent a large sum of their reserves on ATI. They are already up to their eyeballs in debt so i doubt another loan is in the equation.

Yes i know AMD`s position but that is not a failed merger or failed takeover.
ATI and AMD have joined & that = successful merger/takeover, the out come of it being good or bad is another matter.
Spelling ? what's that MEH
 
and you'll all making another huge mistake, your all claiming ATIs 2*** series was a failure, again do you think ATI give a damn about who has the fastest card, mainstream is where its at, been saying that ever since i joined this forum but all you ever get back is agro for seeing the true side of business :rolleyes: bet ATI don't think it was the disaster 90% of people on here think it was
 
^truth^

They're actually selling like hotcakes. Their losses are due to:
a. the merger costs
b. new fabs
c. the CPU price war.
The first two will pay off in the long term. If they ARE going down, it will be due to the third.
 
Here's a bit of reality for everyong:

Steam Stats

Considering the size difference between AMD and Intel, the cpu stats are pretty impressive for AMD (46% vs 53%) - I will be interested to see what that looks like in a year though after C2D has really taken hold. ATI v nVidia is a little more one sided with what looks like 51% to 33% - but look what holds the top spot.

And for all the excitement the mighty 8800 only has a 4.56% share (not that I'm jealous of those 49,850 lucky, lucky b******s out there :p)

Strange that there are no 2900s in there - guess they're still in the unknown ATM.

(also - who are the 4 people with 3 cpus - and how on earth did they manage that - blowout on a quad? :))

and finally:

NVIDIA SLI (4 GPUs) 2

Holy hell - that's a lot of GPUs - 7900gx2 x2 perhaps?
 
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