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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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What kind of magic tricks are AMD using to keep the financial sharks at bay exactly?

They do all of their banking at Gringots :p


Just one thing that a lot of you don't seem to have picked up on about Vega.The Quote in the Slide said "Will Launch Vega for the enthusiast market in H1 2017" Vega is two chips...Vega 10 and Vega 11. Now I cannot remember which is going to be the bigger of the two but isnt the smaller of the two going to be high-end and NOT enthusiast?

Small Vega (RX490?) is high-end and going to be competing against 1070/1080. Big Vega (Fury replacement?) is enthusiast and going to be competing against Titan X(P).

So saying that Enthusiast Vega is launching H1 2017 may still mean that High-End Vega could surface Q1 2017.

Well that is the way my red tinted spectacles see this at the moment with small Vega using GDDR5X and big Vega using HBM2.

Time will tell, it always does. :)
 
Lets get it right

intel who have a near monopoly will do the bare minimum to get people to upgrade. This means new CPU families will have nothing more than 10% better performance than the previous generation.

All this would change if intel had some very serious competition forcing them to give at least 50% improvement per new generation.

Look back to WW2 and all the tech improvements that came along when there was serious competition. WW2 even gave birth to the first computers.

Thankyou Tommy Flowers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Flowers

There isn't 50% to be had though, we're well into the realms now of diminishing returns, this isn't 1945 any more, competition or not. Apple and Samsung are in fierce competition, do we get 50% improvements when they release a new phone or are they all pretty much the same give or take the odd hour of battery performance or few pixels of screen resolution?

The gains to be had these days are tiny, hence why companies are focussing more on power saving and TDP than outright performance, we've already pretty much got all the performance we could need, the gains are to be had elsewhere.
 
What kind of magic tricks are AMD using to keep the financial sharks at bay exactly?

They do not get loans form sharks but banks, with good rates and 5-20 years agreements.

And they do make money, especially now with the upcoming shipment of few million brand new upgraded PS4s and Xbones, leasing their IP, selling Polaris (which apparently sells very well) and much more.

According to their plan for closing 2016, as per August financial update, they plan to spend $1bn of the profits to purchase their debt, while their newe biggest profitable cash cow, is the ZEN servers CPUs that will start shipping next year. (32C/64T) Hence if you see their report, they are more happy that already closing deals for servers. (and I mean huge servers not 2-3 CPUs).
While IBM is looking to use the ZEN core to their upcoming hardware.

No worries AMD is making money, with good future hence their shares skyrocketed recently.
 
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What kind of magic tricks are AMD using to keep the financial sharks at bay exactly?

They r gonna have revised consoles new gen consoles plus old ones which rn't quiet old actually, plus rx480/470 which sell like hotcakes also upcoming Zen. It would be even better with Vega but Amd at current point doesn't have capacity of doing so many things at once
 
How many flops or whatever they are called now does a 480 manage?
I recall something regarding project scorpio, and MS stating they would up their gpu power to 6.0gflops or so, I recall a 6.0 figure anyway, so how does a 480 compare?
 
How many flops or whatever they are called now does a 480 manage?
I recall something regarding project scorpio, and MS stating they would up their gpu power to 6.0gflops or so, I recall a 6.0 figure anyway, so how does a 480 compare?

5.834gflops.

But the chip going to the consoles is different, per console. Much stronger working at 911Mhz, while the RX480 is around at 1300+

Tbh future looks good for AMD. Consider that Freesync is now on HDMI standard, and almost all the newly made TVs from now own, will support it....
 
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5.834gflops.

But the chip going to the consoles is different, per console. Much stronger working at 911Mhz, while the RX480 is around at 1300+

Tbh future looks good for AMD. Consider that Freesync is now on HDMI standard, and almost all the newly made TVs from now own, will support it....

Excellent, that is good to know, I thought it seemed like it was going to kick in around the same sort of power.
As you say consoles will of course be wired differently, share aspects and so on and so forth, but nice to see it in that region.
 
yeah maybe... Whatever it is its one of AMD's newer architectures.

Indeed.

I'm just speculating based off which will be higher performance per watt. Because they'll want to hit the lowest power draw (and therefore heat) for the performance target they want to hit.

Add to that, AMD have a vested interest in sticking whatever arch will have the most longevity and/or be most common on the desktop market, so ports play as nice as possible with the least effort.
 
There isn't 50% to be had though, we're well into the realms now of diminishing returns, this isn't 1945 any more, competition or not. Apple and Samsung are in fierce competition, do we get 50% improvements when they release a new phone or are they all pretty much the same give or take the odd hour of battery performance or few pixels of screen resolution?

The gains to be had these days are tiny, hence why companies are focussing more on power saving and TDP than outright performance, we've already pretty much got all the performance we could need, the gains are to be had elsewhere.

Of course there is not 50% to be had, more like 500% or more.

The GP100 is as much a processor as the 6950X.

It is about time we moved on from this wintel garbage you seem too happy with.
 
Tbh future looks good for AMD. Consider that Freesync is now on HDMI standard, and almost all the newly made TVs from now own, will support it....

Adaptive sync is now supported over HDMI

Huddy got overexcited and said things he shouldn't have, he then retracted his comments and admitted it was his personal views not AMD's and that he was he was speculating.

I can find no mention of any Television manufacturer using Adaptive sync in any upcoming TV's, so to say that almost all TV's made from now on will support it, is a serious stretch of the imagination






An AMD big wig has said that he expects to see a rapid adoption of the company's FreeSync technology in TVs as soon as 2016 – news that will be music to the ears of gamers who prefer to play in the living room on their big screens.

Chief Gaming Scientist Richard Huddy seemed to spill the beans at an AMD event in Munich, saying that the addition of Adaptive Sync to the HDMI standard means that consumer TV manufacturers should be able to very easily add FreeSync to their TVs.

“It’s there on HDMI, too, which is cool,” he said. “We’re there before it’s on monitors, and on TVs, actually. They’re coming, they’re coming very soon, actually.They’re coming, they’re coming very soon, actually.”

Related: Best 4K and gaming monitors

Responding to a direct question about whether FreeSync will make it to TVs, Huddy responded:

“You bet. Yes on HD TVs, yes on Ultra HD TVs. You know that when you run [a game] on PC you’re going to get those variations in frame rate… FreeSync delivers a wonderful experience. If you don’t have it in your lounge you’ll feel rather deprived.

"Absolutely it will be there on HD TVs but I don’t have any idea when it’ll be announced… I believe it’ll be coming to market this year.”

Adaptive Sync is the industry standard, with FreeSync being AMD’s own-brand version of it. FreeSync doesn’t require any extra hardware to be added to monitors or TVs because it works out of the box with DisplayPort and, more recently, HDMI 2.0. Nvidia has its own version, called G-Sync, but this typically increases a monitor’s price by around £50.

Related: Best TVs 2016

Adaptive Sync allows a graphics card to sync up with a display panel (such as a monitor), meaning it only sends complete frames to the monitor. This two-way communication means the monitor will only refresh when the graphics card is ready, massively reducing the stutter associated with traditional vertical sync (Vsync) while eliminating the frame tearing you’ll see with Vsync switched off.

It’s a big deal, and once you’ve used it and noticed the difference, it’s very hard to go back to a non-Adaptive Sync monitor.

Related: Why your next monitor should have FreeSync

But 15 minutes later, Huddy backtracked and sought to clarify that his comments were a "personal statement," rather than reflecting the views of AMD.

He subsequently said:

"I got people excited about HD TVs supporting FreeSync. That that we can say is not what I said. There is support for FreeSync over HDMI, available in monitors, and there will be more monitors coming to market in 2016.

"The statement I made...I withdraw. That's me speculating, not AMD."

What occurred in the time between Huddy's conflicting statements? We'll never know. Still, gamers can take heart that someone so high up the AMD food chain was so 'personally' confident about FreeSync's imminent arrival on TVs.

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It's just not the official shareholder line yet.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/amd-freesync-coming-to-a-tv-near-you
 
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