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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So technically Polaris 10 has more bottlenecks as a design,but the improved handling of tessellation,etc seems to have helped.
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Its more about efficiency than bottlenecks - they actually did the sensible thing and redesigned the command processors, etc. so that the ACEs etc. are actually saturated with the kind of workload realistically they are going to be hit with rather than a wider pipeline sitting under utilised.
 
Radeon Instinct Hardware: Polaris, Fiji, Vega

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Diving deeper into matters, let’s talk about the Radeon Instinct cards themselves. The Instinct cards are for all practical purposes a successor (or spin-off) to AMD’s current FirePro S series cards, so if you are familiar with AMD’s hardware there, then you know what to expect. Passively cooled cards geared for large scale server installations, offered across a range of power and performance options.
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so Vegas just a passively cooled server card, for deep learning ?
 
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Yeah i know, but you wouldn't buy that for gaming would you, as it costs thousands, no one in their right mind would spend thousands on a Vega server card to game on it :p

I bet 1080 orders have just skyrocketed :D
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah i know, but you wouldn't buy that for gaming would you, as it costs thousands, no one in their right mind would spend thousands on a Vega server card to game on it :p

I bet 1080 orders have just skyrocketed :D
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Why as it's a sign that Vega should be pretty potent and hopefully ain't to far off. I don't see this affecting the gtx1080 orders either way.
 
Loadsamoney leaping on the fact that it's a pro-graphics card in some bizarre bid to suggest that it means something detrimental to future gaming cards. Rather than, you know, evidence of a powerful new graphics architecture which will apply to both. :/
 
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Loadsamoney leaping on the fact that it's a pro-graphics card in some bizarre bid to suggest that it means something detrimental to future gaming cards. Rather than, you know, evidence of a powerful new graphics architecture which will apply to both. :/
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As i said above, i know ;)

Everyones clamouring for Vega news, and we finally get some, but about the server ones :D
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
You mean like this thread:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18629984

The GTX970 and GTX980 cards are the best ever made. So much hype and a rebadged R9 290 series cards apparently are not doing too bad.

:eek::D
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I dont know what that thread has to do with anything. Nobody here was claiming the 970 is the best GPU ever made. Dont pull up complete strawmen arguments like this dude.

What was claimed was that the 970 was a bad purchase in the long-term. A £260-270 card that still performs excellently at 1080p/60fps in just about anything(barring poor optimization, which even higher end stuff struggles) is somehow a 'bad purchase'. It's complete nonsense and ignores that, while maybe not the best GPU ever made, is still a fantastic card, and anybody who has been playing on one for the last two years+ has easily made a great decision.

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So basically you are saying in an AMD thread the GTX970 was the best pruchase in the world,despite the fact all your deflection does not change the fact the R9 290 cards came out one year earlier and it will last longer.
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The fact that this is in an AMD thread is irrelevant. Nvidia gets brought up in these threads all the time, and *often* not by any Nvidia fans or anything(which often gets ignored).

And nobody, NOBODY ever said the GTX970 was the best card in the world. I mean, how lacking is your security in your argument that you're making absolutely wild accusations about what the context of the discussion is? It's really sad man. You're above that, normally.

Nor have you at all shown that the 290 is a better card going forward. The 970 is still faster, stock-for-stock, even in many DX12 games, and again, that's not even taking into account how much you can overclock a 970.

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You are getting angry since Humbug thought the R9 290/390 series is better,and so far in this thread you and your mates have tried everything in your power in an AMD thread to make sure any good thing about the R9 290/R9 390 series is buried.

First it was the GTX780>>>>R9 290 and now its the GTX970>>>>R9 290.

I have had a couple of years of Nvidia cards,and you seem to be trying to push the two year GTX970 as being better at every chance in this thread. You can deflect all you want,the older R9 290 will outlive the GTX970.

Just like the R9 290 will outlive the GTX780. Some of you can't get that.

I am yet to see anybody looking at things carefully say in this thread a Fury X will outlive a GTX980TI,and with only 4GB of VRAM I doubt it. But,but we surely can't say one AMD card will last long,otherwise the cats will become dogs and the dogs will become cats.

The problem is any mention of the R9 290 cards longevity is met by as much counter PR as possible. It was the same with the HD7950/HD7970 derivatives too.
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For one, nobody was 'getting angry'. Please dont misrepresent what is going on, as you're making a habit of that at the moment. My emotion would be more accurately described as 'incredulous' and 'humored' due to such laughable(but not unsurprising) revisionism. :p

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Like the 290 the 970 is a good card but i never felt it was faster overclocked or not, according to this the 390, which is the same card, is 8% faster.

That doesn't mean the 970 is / was any less good.

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Benchmarks show the 390 is faster than the 290, and the 390X likewise over the 290X. They have the same underpinnings, but there are minor differences that have made a difference in performance between them.

Additionally, you're conveniently using the 1440p benchmark, when these cards are clearly, and have always been, more fit for 1080p gaming.

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Yeah, there are differences between them ^^^^^ the benchmarks for the 290 are of reference cooled ones running 100Mhz lower than reference clocks, about 850Mhz, the 390 with a proper cooler runs at 1000Mhz.
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AMD Zen Horizon event is tomorrow, maybe we will know more then.
 
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