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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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If top Vega edges the 1080 in DX11 games and gets pretty close to the Ti in DX12/Vulkan then I'd call that a success. Better to look to the future than live in the past :)

(and my fave game 'The Division' has a pretty good DX12 implementation :D)
Somewhere between 1080 and 1080ti with price to match is the most liekly outcome.
 
Overclocked 1080 Ti is actually over 14 Tflops. 2050 MHz x 2 x 3584 cores.

Thanks for that. I couldn't remember the method of working out Gflops/Tflops.

So that's crazy! I didn't realise that my 1080Ti is kicking out around 14.7 Tflops of theoretical performance. And yea now come to mention it AMD don't ever seem to get near full utilisation of their full theoretical performance. And gain performance as the card ages. (FineWine TM) lol.

So that means Top end vega will need to have a boost clock of around 1650Mhz to 1700Mhz to even be close to a 1080ti in theoretical performance, due to how the 1080Ti boosts.

The 1080 when overclocked to around 2Ghz - 2.1Ghz has around 10.25 - 10.7 TFlops.

Okays looks like the Vega card if it is clocked around 1500Mhz will end up being just slightly faster than a 1080 lol. Dammit. I hope this isn't true and i hope AMD have really improved things in the architecture.
 
Thanks for that. I couldn't remember the method of working out Gflops/Tflops.

So that's crazy! I didn't realise that my 1080Ti is kicking out around 14.7 Tflops of theoretical performance. And yea now come to mention it AMD don't ever seem to get near full utilisation of their full theoretical performance. And gain performance as the card ages. (FineWine TM) lol.

So that means Top end vega will need to have a boost clock of around 1650Mhz to 1700Mhz to even be close to a 1080ti in theoretical performance, due to how the 1080Ti boosts.

The 1080 when overclocked to around 2Ghz - 2.1Ghz has around 10.25 - 10.7 TFlops.

Okays looks like the Vega card if it is clocked around 1500Mhz will end up being just slightly faster than a 1080 lol. Dammit. I hope this isn't true and i hope AMD have really improved things in the architecture.
That what i said 6 months ago when AMD announced there pro VEGA cards. GCN always require 20% more Tflops to compete against Nvidia counter part and nothing will change because of its design.
 
That what i said 6 months ago when AMD announced there pro VEGA cards. GCN always require 20% more Tflops to compete against Nvidia counter part and nothing will change because of its design.
Well lets hope all these improvements AMD have touted that it actually gets them closer to their theoretical performance similar to nvidia. nVidia does need some stiff competition in all segments in the GFX section.
 
Well lets hope all these improvements AMD have touted that it actually gets them closer to their theoretical performance similar to nvidia. nVidia does need some stiff competition in all segments in the GFX section.
No improvement can change that much. As i said it requires a lot invesment in R&D and need to change the whole architecture to gain that, which cannot happen because of AMD commitment for consoles and they have very less amount of money for GPU R&D.
 
No improvement can change that much. As i said it requires a lot invesment in R&D and need to change the whole architecture to gain that, which cannot happen because of AMD commitment for consoles and they have very less amount of money for GPU R&D.
lol why are you so negative when it comes to AMD? If Vega doesnt outperform 1080 by a meaningful margin NVIDIA will overprice its products even more
 
No improvement can change that much. As i said it requires a lot invesment in R&D and need to change the whole architecture to gain that, which cannot happen because of AMD commitment for consoles and they have very less amount of money for GPU R&D.

A one-company monopoly isn't good for anyone, but I know you will never have a positive thing to say about AMD.
 
now im looking forward to seeing APU with Vega embedded then the actual Vega card haha. should make a nice little mini console

wonder if they'll just slap two Vega chips on one PCB board - little and Big Vega :D
 
now that *does* look like it'll be awesome :cool:

if it still features AMD hybrid system ( forgot the name), ITX beast could be looking good! maybe why no brands have really pushed X370 mITX since there meant to be the x300 chipset for that-
would also allow this rumor of Intel using AMD GPU as it could be Polaris based....
but thats another topic I guess.
 
now im looking forward to seeing APU with Vega embedded then the actual Vega card haha. should make a nice little mini console
True, up until now we've either had the option of cheap 2c/2t Intel CPUs with half-decent IGPs or 2-module APUs from AMD with better IGPs but lacklustre CPUs performance. The Pentium G4560 is a step in the right direction but an AMD equivalent in that price bracket with a much better IGP will be fantastic, especially if it has 4 real cores.
 
No improvement can change that much. As i said it requires a lot invesment in R&D and need to change the whole architecture to gain that, which cannot happen because of AMD commitment for consoles and they have very less amount of money for GPU R&D.
I don't know tbh Doom because GCN has improved quite a lot since early days and its improved the most with vega ever since it was introduced. Well claiming to AMD. AMD seem to improve stuff better than they do brand new archs. Not saying their new stuff is bad but it's always off to a slow start usually. Ryzen seems good but hit by a bad start but slowly getting there and Zen+ brings more to the table and with a more mature process meaning better clock speeds too. Anyways that's why i'm holding out to see what these improvements bring to the table for Vega. I really want AMD to do well so much. And that's probably why i hate seeing negativity around AMD. We need AMD to get to a better competing podium with nVidia. Otherwise things get stale for us gamers. I think AMD have invested a lot in Ryzen and vega. Even polaris but i think they invested more in ryzen and Vega. So hopefully it pays off, but time will tell i guess.
 
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