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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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Griffildur said:
If they manage to get close to 1080 performance I expect the price will be quite close as well.
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Exactly, I am still amazed how people want AMD to sell same performance as competition for a fraction of their price :D It's like nV and Intel gouging we all got used to, but god forbid AMD prices their products close and tries to make some money. No, AMD is crap company if it doesn't give us great products for mid-range cost. We in the UK will get shafted anyway. If we get 1080 (or very close) perf for £550~ I'll be quite happy, we all know AMD's recent few gens aged well, most likely it will outperform 1080 not long after nV release 11XX series.
 
Greebo said:
Esp with the 1.2 to the pound. The days of UK buyers getting bang for buck are long gone.
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I bought an MSI TF3 7950 boost from Overclockers in May of 2013 and it came with codes for FARCRY3 Blood Dragon, Crysis 3 & Bioshock Infinite which were quite recent titles at the time, When the card came MSI had also included a code for Far cry 3 in the box which again was fairly new at the time so I got 4 games for free, none of which were cheap,
That saved me a 100 pounds or so as I would have ended up buying all the games I got anyway. The card cost £239.99 so that was a great bang for the buck deal.
It was followed up with the Gold, Silver and Bronze deals where you chose upto 3 games from a decent list but it was obvious such offers couldn't last as it must have cost AMD a lot of something, More of those would be nice.
 
Dont people remember the recent rip off prices of AMD's higher end cards. Fury, Fury X, Nano, all were way overpriced.

Not a chance in hell a 1080 competitor will be sub 500 quid. :)
 
chroniclard said:
Dont people remember the recent rip off prices of AMD's higher end cards. Fury, Fury X, Nano, all were way overpriced.

Not a chance in hell a 1080 competitor will be sub 500 quid. :)
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Of course they won't, They've been sat with nothing on offer watching Nvidia charge what they like at the high end (practically) so if a card matches a 1080 it'll be priced around what a 1080 is, They're not gonna miss that boat,
They may slightly undercut it if we're lucky but I'm expecting the same sort of excuses as we saw with Fiji where they gave the "We don't want to be seen as the cheaper brand" speech.
If it's faster than a 1080 it'll cost more, I'm just hoping they don't out price me by it being close to a Titan XP in speed and cost, I can't justify paying that sort of money on a card that'll be out-paced 6-12 months down the line.

I paid £440 for my Fury Pro, I suppose I'll have to push my budget to around £650 this time but if it goes too far from that I'm out.
 
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Griffildur said:
If they manage to get close to 1080 performance I expect the price will be quite close as well.
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That is the problem, why bother with a card that performs the same for the same price when you could have had that months ago.

I preferred Amd when they were seen as the cheaper option tbh.
 
nashathedog said:
Of course they won't, They've been sat with nothing on offer watching Nvidia charge what they like at the high end (practically) so if a card matches a 1080 it'll be priced around what a 1080 is, They're not gonna miss that boat,
They may slightly undercut it if we're lucky but I'm expecting the same sort of excuses as we saw with Fiji where they gave the "We don't want to be seen as the cheaper brand" speech.
If it's faster than a 1080 it'll cost more, I'm just hoping they don't out price me by it being close to a Titan XP in speed and cost, I can't justify paying that sort of money on a card that'll be out-paced 6-12 months down the line.

I paid £440 for my Fury Pro, I suppose I'll have to push my budget to around £650 this time but if it goes too far from that I'm out.
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The Fury was generally the same price as the GTX980 and was a bit faster.

AMD,probably didn't have as much pricing leeway,as Fiji was a 600MM2 chip on an interposer with HBM which all sounds quite expensive to make.

I expect Vega will be a somewhat smaller chip,and considering how much the GTX1080 costs currently,they sadly have a lot of leeway for pricing.

The main issue,is that with the GCN1.2 and 1.3 chips they were all quite large chips for their performance brackets.

Vega pricing will be determined more by the die size and whether they only use HBM2,as that would probably increase packaging costs.
 
It's not that AMD should just sell the same performance for less money, but that having competition in the same performance bracket should hopefully lower prices as each side jockeys for sales.
 
Ian Evey said:
That is the problem, why bother with a card that performs the same for the same price when you could have had that months ago.

I preferred Amd when they were seen as the cheaper option tbh.
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That's exactly why they always miss the boat.

Every time I look it's the same story. By the time they come out with Vega, Nvidia will have news about their next generation or will be close to that. Might as well just buy what's already available when it's released and stop waiting. Well, at least that's what I do :)
 
Baboonanza said:
It's not that AMD should just sell the same performance for less money, but that having competition in the same performance bracket should hopefully lower prices as each side jockeys for sales.
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that only works if they release about the same time. If it's a year down the line, I don't care that AMD has a similar card cheaper. I've already used mine for a while and got my money's worth out of it.
It was exactly the same situation with 970 ... I already had one for almost 2 years, not going to buy a 480 next, am I? It'd have to be something way better.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
The 980 was around £200 cheaper.
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No it wasn't. So now you are saying the GTX980 was £200 to £240?? You could get Fury cards for £400 to £450 at launch.

You are blatantly lying too:

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84512-sapphire-radeon-r9-fury-tri-x-oc/

Look at the USD prices. The Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury Tri-X OC was one of the more expensive Fury cards at launch and that was £450.

Some of the XFX and Powercolor models(IIRC) started at around £400ish too.

There were the odd deals for GTX980 cards just under £400(£380 pounds IIRC),but the GTX980 is an inferior card(I know you seem to have some weird love for it) and you only have to look in many modern games where it can barely compete with a tarted up R9 290X.

The GTX980TI might have been something else,but the GTX980 was so woefully overpriced that it even made the R9 Fury look OKish for the money despite AMD asking quite a bit for one by their standards.
 
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