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AMD VEGA confirmed for 2017 H1

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The AMD market cap has crossed $10 billion. I hope with the extra loot after this set of cards they can afford to speed things along by hiring some more staff or something. NVIDIA could do it when they were on that amount.
 
Kaapstad said:
It is not lower than GDDR5X

Comparing HBM2 to GDDR5X is like a lorry to a sports car.

You will get a lot more work done with the lorry but the sports car will get you from A to B quicker.
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Where on earth did you get that idea? In theory latency for HBM2 should be lower than GDDR5X - current GDDR5X implementations are nowhere near their theoretical best and likely the first cut at HBM2 won't be either but that doesn't mean it'll have higher latency. In practise almost all performance-focused DDR & GDDR implementations have similar latency due to the underlying DRAM access being by far the biggest component.

I'd speculate that the biggest problems with HBM2 will be cost and supply.
 
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Griffildur said:
so the expectation now is that Vega will beat a 1080 and cost up to £400?

if that happens, performance wise, I don't see this card being cheaper than 500, probably more. Fury x was above 500 on release wasn't it? With the pound taking a beating, chances are prices will be quite a bit higher possibly edging towards £600.
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I'm thinking £600+ for the top-end tbh.
 
FoxEye said:
Kaap, from the point of view of an unbiased observer, you are *obsessed* with slating HBM. I have no idea why you've decided to go on a one-man crusade against this technology, but anybody who follows these threads will basically be ignoring anything you have to say about it by this point.

Let it go.
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If the above was true you would not even bother to post.:D

My problem with HBM is it does not work that well on my cards.

I am an individual and I do not follow the crowd view that we should believe all the advertised claims about HBM without any practical working example of the benefits. HBM has been an epic failure on then Fiji cards and HBM2 does not seem to give any additional performance gains on the Tesla cards when using FP32.
 
Griffildur said:
If that happens, performance wise, I don't see this card being cheaper than 500, probably more. Fury x was above 500 on release wasn't it? With the pound taking a beating, chances are prices will be quite a bit higher possibly edging towards £600.
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FuryXs went up to £650 at one point, and they wern't much faster than the 980, which was around £200+ cheaper, they were even £100+ more expensive than the much faster 980Ti.
 
DarrenM343 said:
Agree with that too. People seem to be forgetting the time frames involved here and the development lifecylces. 1080 performance at £500 by summer 2017 from AMD will be utter tripe to be honest, a whole year after we've had the same performance for £619. I expect much more better than that else Nvidia will be wholly justified in releasing an 1180 for +30% more £ if the best the competition can do is just match a 1080 a whole year later than its release for £500.
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the market won't over analyse things such as fp32, hbm or development life cycles.

as long as the new card devilers solid widescreen and vr perf at a price far lower than a custom 1080 then they will sell well as they will pair them with zen.

i would prefer a single vendor solution at a good price point with a slightly slower gpu than an overly expensive one which gives me performance i don't really need.

we don't appear to have concrete evidence of what amd have in their back pocket so most of this talk appears to just be forum members talking amd down.
 
Besty said:
we don't appear to have concrete evidence of what amd have in their back pocket so most of this talk appears to just be forum members talking amd down.
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Well that's the norm around here unfortunately. Some Nvidia users will jump on any upturn in AMDs fortunes just because they own an Nvidia card. We see it regularly on here by the usual suspects. They don't seem to realise that even though they may never buy an AMD card, having AMD do well is good for all consumers. Any advancement in Graphics tech is a good thing regardless whether you support Green or Red.:)

You would think that those manufacturers were football teams the way that some behave on here, and being a rugby man I don't get that either. :p
 
maonayze said:
Well that's the norm around here unfortunately. Some Nvidia users will jump on any upturn in AMDs fortunes just because they own an Nvidia card. We see it regularly on here by the usual suspects. They don't seem to realise that even though they may never buy an AMD card, having AMD do well is good for all consumers. Any advancement in Graphics tech is a good thing regardless whether you support Green or Red.:)

You would think that those manufacturers were football teams the way that some behave on here, and being a rugby man I don't get that either. :p
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It works both ways and anything to do with NVidia is seen as bad by some users but those who favour a particular brand only ever see negatives pertaining to the brand they prefer and hence post like you have just done. Those who don't really care see good and bad in both AMD and NVidia and not fussed what they have in their machine.
 
Gregster said:
It works both ways and anything to do with NVidia is seen as bad by some users but those who favour a particular brand only ever see negatives pertaining to the brand they prefer and hence post like you have just done. Those who don't really care see good and bad in both AMD and NVidia and not fussed what they have in their machine.
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Flopper and LambChop come to mind :p
 
maonayze said:
Well that's the norm around here unfortunately.
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I've found it to be quite the opposite overall. People here seem to always hype up whatever AMD have coming to extraordinary levels, while anything Nvidia potentially have coming up is downplayed.

maonayze said:
Some Nvidia users will jump on any upturn in AMDs fortunes just because they own an Nvidia card.
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Sure. But if you ignore that AMD users here, or AMD 'fans', dont jump on Nvidia for the most miniscule perceived slight all the time as well, then you're just as one-sighted as anybody.

The way this whole Nvidia vs AMD fanboy brigade plays out on this site is hilarious. AMD fans make up a significant percent of the posting in these types of things, yet still act like they are some persecuted minority.
 
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