AMD vs intel

TwistNut

TwistNut

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hey guys ive allways used amd before but it seems itel is ahead at the moment


but would i see a drastic speed diffrence when gaming with a AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 980 Black Edition

over a i5 2500k

also with the bulldozer soon coming out with the amd mobo and cpu combo could i upgrade to the bulldozer if its any good

and if its not any good would this amd cpu be good for a couple of years ?

thanks again guys
 
You wouldn't buy a 980, you'd be sensible to buy the 955BE and OC it to 3.8 essentially making it a 980.

The i5 is without doubt a better CPU but it is more expensive. The more you spend on the cpu and mobo the less you have for a gpu and other components obviously.

Personally on a tight budget for a gaming rig, i would opt for a £60 am3+ mobo and 955BE. That works out about the same cost as 1 i5 2500K cpu, then i'd have more cash for a current GPU. WIth the am3+ mobo you can drop a BD core in much later. At the end of the day it's your call buddy.
 
ok cool all i wanted to know is that im not going to be like oh DONT ATTEMPT TO BYPASS THE SWEARIES this dont run right because i got the amd cpu rqather than the i5

if that will not be the case then ill go amd :)
 
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/362?vs=289

That link will help you compare cpus. I did a compare with the 980 and the i3 2100 as they are roughly the same price. The i5 blows away anything amd has to offer at the mo but as i said it costs more.

Providing you get an AM3+ mobo you can use BD cpus. The intel route is just as future proof, ivybridge will work on the intel 1155 mobos.

I dont know what your budget is. Ideally you want an i5 but if you are gaming I wouldn't buy one if it limits your options for the GPU. For gaming the GPU really does make the most difference.
 
TwistNut said:
ok cool all i wanted to know is that im not going to be like oh **** this dont run right because i got the amd cpu rqather than the i5

if that will not be the case then ill go amd :)
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You'd have to be crazy to build a new AMD build at this moment. Even the Intel i3 2100 (dual-core) trade blows with the Phenom II 980BE X4 (Quad-core) 3.7GHz on games that use Quad-core fully, and the i3 2100 beating the Phenom II 980BE by a fairly big margin in games that use less than 4 cores:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20873/2

Also, not to mention that the Phenom II X4 power consumption is around double of the i3 2100 when under load. Also, while the i3 2100 would be perfectly fine with the stock cooler, it would not be such a good idea to run a Phenom II X4 at 3.7GHz or above on the stock cooler- and getting a 3rd part cooler will cost you extra.

To be honest...I seriously doubt Bulldozer is gonna be beating SandyBridge on gaming performance. Yes it might offer 8 cores, but it doesn't help if games don't use the extra cores. Also, if Bulldozer can't deliver compariable speed per core as the SandyBridge, it would mean it will most likely deliver lower frame rate for games.

And also, there's still not confirmation for the launch date of Bulldozer yet with delay after delay...
 
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Dude seriously!

I posted a link so you could compare CPUs. You can select the hexcore and see for yourself how it stacks up.

*edit* To be fair the i3 2100 and a high clocked phenom ii are relatively on par. If you check the benchmarks the amd will pull ahead on some tasks and lose on others. You need to judge for yourself if the X4 is better at doing tasks you'll actually do. Generally though there's not much in it and yes marine is right about the power consumption. I think the phenom draws an extra 50W under load but idle is the same.

The problem with buying AMD now is that these CPUs will be replaced shortly and will obviously devalue. If you cant afford an i5 fair enough you'll have to weigh the choice of i3 over the Phenom. It would be wiser to wait and see what happens with prices on BDs release, save your money keep sticking an extra £20 or so in the budget as you wait for BD. There are also 7 series radeons GPUs due, wether they come out alongside the BD CPUs no-one knows.
 
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Jony27 said:
hi, kind of off topic but could please explain to me or provide a link about the new intel cpu's.
is ivybridge and sandy bridge-e different, and will they be using socket 2011?
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4291/additional-details-on-sandy-bridgee-processors-x79-and-lga2011

Sandybridge-E is a completely different platform that will be using socket 2011. It will be a replacement for the current 980x and 990x extreme Core i7 processors.

Ivy Bridge is the next generation 22nm CPU's that will replace the current Sandybridge. It will continue to use socket 1155, but there are rumours that it will not be compatible with the current chipsets.
 
what im going to do is ive allwasy used amd so going to keep support them might be dumb but dont really care :p

so imma buy the computer componuts build it up with a cheap amd chip then when the bulldozer comes out ill swap it out :) so ill just get a cheap ship for now

going to get the 900 chipset amd cross hair v ready for the bd :)
 
I would rather have the phenom if it meant I could afford a better graphics card. Whatever your budget allows mate but if you get an am3+ board now then you have a good chip to use in the meantime and the option to upgrade further down the line to bulldozer if you find the phenom struggling, which seems unlikely if your just gaming.
 
TwistNut said:
if they turn out no better which i very much doubt then ill get a x4 3.7gh and still have a good gaming rig i surpose
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Still don't understand why would you want to do that, when comparing to the i3 2100 the Phenom II X4 980BE at 3.7GHz is more expensive, double the power consumption under load, much hotter running, and SLOWER not just in gaming, but other general usage...and even video encoding as well:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/07/01/intel-core-i3-2100-review/4
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/07/01/intel-core-i3-2100-review/5
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2011/07/01/intel-core-i3-2100-review/6
http://techreport.com/articles.x/20873/2
 
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