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AMD wants to improve gaming in Linux and Steam boxes

bru said:
So developers will have to code their games for windows directX 11 and directX 12, windows Mantle, xboxone, PS4, steam OS/ and steam OS mantle.
Cant really see that happening too often as mantle is still only for AMD and the latest cards at that, so that cuts down the audience for the steam OS mantle version by over half right from the start.
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no they will have to code their engine for
DX12 they said it will be the same api for xbox one and windows(for Nvidia and AMD on windows OS)
Open GL (for Nvidia and AMD on steamOS)
Mantle ( for AMD and Nvidia, if Nvidia chooses to pick up the source and use it, today in richard huddy clarified that Mantle open source will not require any licencing, so Nvidia will have no downside other than political and pride considerations)
PS4
 
TheRealDeal said:
Nope Its because you never have anything positive to say. You are as negative as can be and i just cant see why you bother with amd. Most would have gotten rid ages ago never mind bought the next gen. Seriously you have crossfire systems so can afford Nvidias best. Do yourself a favour and buy Nvidia.
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Other than heat/noise of the 290s, poor overclocking (not just constrained to AMD GPUs) and in my opinion a cheaper 'feel' to the physical product I'm not sure I've been over negative about my cards.
I've said before that the jump for SLI 670s to (first 7950CF) and 290CF wasn't quite as big as I'd hoped, but I think that's a bit my fault for believe they hype.

Other than that I tend to just not be "Mantle is wonderful" and "AMD are the awesomest company to ever exist, ever".
I believe this tends to annoy people as they can't fire back at my arguments with something along the lines of "Why not try Mantle yourself, oh you can't! That explains a lot".
 
Around 50 games have been developed or will be released soon using Mantle tools, with more in the works. Beyond Windows, AMD sees a vast opportunity to “reveal the goodness of gaming” in Linux
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Great stuff. :)
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Other than heat/noise of the 290s, poor overclocking (not just constrained to AMD GPUs) and in my opinion a cheaper 'feel' to the physical product I'm not sure I've been over negative about my cards.
I've said before that the jumit to some good use lol. for SLI 670s to (first 7950CF) and 290CF wasn't quite as big as I'd hoped, but I think that's a bit my fault for believe they hype.

Other than that I tend to just not be "Mantle is wonderful" and "AMD are the awesomest company to ever exist, ever".
I believe this tends to annoy people as they can't fire back at my arguments with something along the lines of "Why not try Mantle yourself, oh you can't! That explains a lot".
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You just come across as hating your amd gpus. I have seriously never seen you say anything positive. The fact that you would rather play on the 7950cf machine should be telling you something. Get rid for some Nvidia cards or send me the machine and I will put It to some good use lol.

your money at the end of the day and you obviously feel Nvidia can do better than amd so make yourself happy.
 
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50 games? I find that figure a little hard to believe, we don't even have 48 games releasing soon :p

And the Linux hype isn't a new thing (Nor is it exclusive to AMD) and it's so far amounted to little. SteamOS has certainly helped the situation however! (Although you'd still be absolutely mental to go for a Linux native gaming experience)
 
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TheRealDeal said:
You just come across as hating your amd gpus. I have seriously never seen you say anything positive. The fact that you would rather play on the 7950cf machine should be telling you something. Get rid for some Nvidia cards or send me the machine and I will put I
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What positive things should I be saying about them?

EDIT: I'll say this, the 3D on my monitors doesn't work (as well) with Nvidia cards.
 
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Anyone else get the feeling that AMD are painting a big target on themselves by doing this? Mantle was already a threat to Direct3D, now it's becoming a threat to Windows itself. Considering the amount of money Microsoft burned through burying OpenGL this is a risky bridge to cross before you even have medium scale adoption.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
What positive things should I be saying about them?
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If you dont know or have any to speak of then that speaks for itself. Sitting here playing the witcher 2 on my mates 7970's and having a good experience. A little faster than 7950's but guessing the experience would be similar. Metro last light last time I was through was awesome as well. Do you get similar experience's or It all doom and gloom.
 
ubersonic said:
Anyone else get the feeling that AMD are painting a big target on themselves by doing this? Mantle was already a threat to Direct3D, now it's becoming a threat to Windows itself. Considering the amount of money Microsoft burned through burying OpenGL this is a risky bridge to cross before you even have medium scale adoption.
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Not really, it's just noise at the moment.
 
TheRealDeal said:
If you dont know or have any to speak of then that speaks for itself. Sitting here playing the witcher 2 on my mates 7970's and having a good experience. A little faster than 7950's but guessing the experience would be similar. Metro last light last time I was through was awesome as well. Do you get similar experience's or It all doom and gloom.
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But that's not exclusive to AMD? And playing games (that it should be doing) isn't really a positive is it :p?
 
TheRealDeal said:
Surely playing games good on a graphics card is the biggest positive you can have. Thats what they are designed for is it not?.
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But that positive isn't exclusive to it being AMD, because it's not doing it better than any other card. Doing what it's meant to do isn't a positive.

By that stretch I think my chair's amazing because I can sit on it and I don't fall off.
 
TheRealDeal said:
If you dont know or have any to speak of then that speaks for itself. Sitting here playing the witcher 2 on my mates 7970's and having a good experience. A little faster than 7950's but guessing the experience would be similar. Metro last light last time I was through was awesome as well. Do you get similar experience's or It all doom and gloom.
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Yeah, the games I play generally play fine (there's the VRAM issue in BF4 with Mantle), a few games I seem to get slightly lower fps than I would expect compared to others with similar setups.
But I'm not going to praise a card for doing what it's supposed to. They're gaming cards, you're supposed to game on them. The fact that you CAN game on them doesn't seem to me to be something to be impressed with, it's what I expected when I bought them. I'm pretty sure when I had my Nvidia cards I didn't go "My 670SLI play this game ok and it plays this game ok. So much more than I expected from a 670SLI setup". So it would suggest that I also hated my Nvidia cards.
I can watch TV on my TV, but that's what I bought it for so don't feel the need to tell everyone that my TV allows me to watch TV.

So other than pointing out the obvious (that I can game on my gaming cards) I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say to indicate that I like them.
Also, based on this criteria I'm not sure why everyone thinks I like Nvidia cards and tells me to get them instead.

I don't see my self a being negative, just honest with my opinion.


humbug said:
Great stuff. :)
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I do agree that it's good that Mantle may appear on Linux. I don't see it changing gaming on Linux, but would be a nice addition. I mean Linux already has an API (OpenGL) that is cross-vendor. Anything that helps Linux gaming take off will need to be multi-vendor in my opinion as Linux users with GCN graphics cards is not a big market. It's like in Windows, Mantle is extremely unlikely to be the sole API in a game (unless it becomes multi-vendor) and the same is true on Linux, which means people still have to use the OpenGL API like they do now. It can enchance what's already there, but I don't see it bringing any games that wouldn't be on Linux anyway. I think Steam and SteamOS will do more to encourage games to be released on Linux than Mantle will.
 
I buy a gaming card to game and if it plays games to my liking without being to loud am happy. It would seem others need it to fetch them beer and be there best friends. Seriously if a card runs games to a good level what more do you want from what is called a GAMING card. Yes there are secondarys like power usage and noise but you should already know these values before buying.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I buy a gaming card to game and if it plays games to my liking without being to loud am happy. It would seem others need it to fetch them beer and be there best friends. Seriously if a card runs games to a good level what more do you want from what is called a GAMING card. Yes there are secondarys like power usage and noise but you should already know these values before buying.
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If my gaming cards didn't play games then I'd send them back as they wouldn't be fit for purpose.
It's like, if my watch didn't tell the time and just randomly display words on the screen I'd consider that bad. The fact that mine displays the time is what I expect, I don't feel the need to tell everyone about it at every opportunity.
I'm now a little worried that all my friends think I don't like my watch... :)
 
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