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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.

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jigger said:
You and your clan of neutrals. Lol, you are a strange cat.
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Actually I'm a wee bit AMD biased when it's AMD vs Intel, truth be told. But I don't give AMD a free ride either.

Looking forward to being unwilling in the end to buy a 4700X, because they price it above £250, my self-imposed ceiling :p
 
FoxEye said:
Actually I'm a wee bit AMD biased when it's AMD vs Intel, truth be told. But I don't give AMD a free ride either.

Looking forward to being unwilling in the end to buy a 4700X, because they price it above £250, my self-imposed ceiling :p
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So by “us neutrals” you actually mean just yourself and you are in fact biased AF.

Can I ask you a personal question?
 
jigger said:
So by “us neutrals” you actually mean just yourself and you are in fact biased AF.

Can I ask you a personal question?
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No, I believe there are more "neutrals" (those whose bias is small or not significant) than self-identifying "fans" of any of these companies.

But those people don't tend to get involved in protracted arguments because there's nothing in it for them.

Me, I'm just a masochist.

You can ask whatever you want; I just won't answer if the question is a mick-take. I do attempt to post here in good faith, and generally ignore those who don't.
 
Joxeon said:
I don't think the issue is the fan noise but more so if it fails a couple of years down the line then either cooks the chipset or leaves you having to Jerry rig something up as there is no replacement parts available.
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Destination said:
2 nvme drives on board currently.
Gen 3 so gen 4 might make a difference.
I don't hear the fan on startup, I gad to shine a torch to co firm it us functioning.
So i doubt it'll die from lack of use, the heatsinks seem to do the trick along with case airflow
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Meanwhile over at the X570 taichi thread another one bites the dust and these are only a year into their life span.

beany_bot said:
Well, I can't say I didnt think it would happen but it happened. Stupid chipset fan packed in. What a racket, soaring temps.

Now lucky I am so cynical, so sure I was that these little fans would break when they release X570 that months ago I contacted Asrock and told them mine had broken so they sent me a replacement. So I've already fixed this as I had one spare. But rather annoying none the less. Now to get another back-up fan!
https://youtu.be/-uLTjRaxRKE

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Joxeon said:
Meanwhile over at the X570 taichi thread another one bites the dust and these are only a year into their life span.
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Not MSI and when tachi launched their % thru the vrms didn't seem to check out
They were way off base, potentially to make their boards seem better
MSI were as good as on the money, and their tomahawk the same, so hopefully they don't fry either.
 
FoxEye said:
Actually I'm a wee bit AMD biased when it's AMD vs Intel, truth be told. But I don't give AMD a free ride either.

Looking forward to being unwilling in the end to buy a 4700X, because they price it above £250, my self-imposed ceiling :p
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My plan is to wait for the 5000 series to land then pick up a 4000 series upgrade in the sales.
 
HACO said:
PS4 and XBOne also had 8 cores.
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8 Jaguar cores are not the same as 8 zen2 cores lol.

And seeing as most new PC builds (at least on this forum) are Ryzen builds, why would you want a PC with less than what the consoles have? 8 cores will become the norm within a year or 2
 
Praz94 said:
8 Jaguar cores are not the same as 8 zen2 cores lol.

And seeing as most new PC builds (at least on this forum) are Ryzen builds, why would you want a PC with less than what the consoles have? 8 cores will become the norm within a year or 2
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Not disputing that, but the whole "next gen consoles are 8 core so buy 8 core PC" makes no sense, since consoles were 8 cores in the last generation too (and at the time the advice was that 8-core CPUs for gaming were waste of money). Right now things have changed (games are better at utilising more cores, 8-core CPUs are cheaper) so the advice is different, but it's not because consoles suddenly became 8-cores, they've been 8 cores since 2013.
 
HACO said:
Not disputing that, but the whole "next gen consoles are 8 core so buy 8 core PC" makes no sense, since consoles were 8 cores in the last generation too (and at the time the advice was that 8-core CPUs for gaming were waste of money). Right now things have changed (games are better at utilising more cores, 8-core CPUs are cheaper) so the advice is different, but it's not because consoles suddenly became 8-cores, they've been 8 cores since 2013.
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But you've missed the important point that the Jaguar cores were woefully underpowered in PC gaming terms. You don't need 8 cores on PC to match the power of the Jaguars. But the new consoles are Zen 2 based, which are light years ahead of Jaguar and superior to Intel's Skylake architecture (Comet Lake is still Skylake). So the advice of "8 PC cores because the next gen consoles are 8 cores" make perfect sense and will be very much the case in about a year once devs start wringing the necks of the consoles.

PS4 having 8 cores has zero to do with anything, the statement is "next gen consoles have 8 cores", not "previous gen consoles had 8 cores".
 
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