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Not stupid I'd think. You just didn't do enough research I would guess?

Yeah all I do is browse the web and do the odd 3D Mark benchmark run, get bored with BF4 after 10 minutes but it seems to run ok but it is quite old now. I was hoping the extra cores of the Ryzen would help in BF5 which I will no doubt buy and not get value for money from.
 
Just seen this review of the Ryzen 5 2600

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antony...view-the-best-ever-pc-processor/#1785633756be

At stock speeds they scored 1235 in Cinebench with 3000 memory, I get 1213 in Cinebench with 2133 memory. A whole 22 points less, they do say that with 3200 and above you'll get "much" better results but how much better are we talking? You'd get better results from overclocking the CPU or indeed buying a better CPU to begin with. By the way not trolling.
 
From a bang for the buck perspective, I still don't see the point of buying super expensive RAM when that money is better spent on a better CPU or GPU. I got a really good deal on the 32GB 2133 stuff I have so am slightly biased. I paid £ 161.05 ex VAT for it with free delivery. I am in Jersey so no VAT either.

Here's my AIDA64 trial version memory benchmark...

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This will no doubt highlight the differences between memory speeds.
 
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In very simple terms I guess RAM speed makes most difference to system responsiveness. A GPU to frame rates, and CPU to number crunching. Depends what you value most I guess. Benchmarks are great and I love them but I guess it would be pretty hard for a human to detect the differences in responsiveness between different RAM speeds as we are talking nanoseconds.
 
If my RAM reads at 32GB/s which isn't slow then in two seconds it can read 64GB. I am prepared to wait an extra second.
 
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Can't you just accept that I am happy with the RAM I bought? My old RAM was 1333 so it would be slower in AIDA64. Anyone who thinks 32GB/s read is slow is insane. Yes benchmarks make it look slow but am I bothered if a RAM intensive tasks take twice as many seconds to complete.
 
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Fair enough but we all have different budgets, expectations, and uses. I had a i5-2500K system with 16GB of DDR3 1333 and a Radeon 7950 3GB. In all honesty it was still perfectly fine for my basic needs and I hadn't loaded a game for years.

Despite that I had a bit of spare cash so looked at the 3D Mark Timespy results to find a CPU that would double my CPU score of 2400 and a GPU that would double my graphics score of 2000 but I didn't want to spend a fortune. So at first I bought the Radeon RX 580 8GB for £ 187.49 ex VAT. I don't pay VAT as I live in Jersey. That got my graphics score up to 4300.

Then found the Ryzen 5 2600 fitted the CPU bill for £ 118 ex VAT free delivery that would get me 5800 CPU score. Then I selected a B450 motherboard to go with it, I wanted a full sized ATX board and at first chose the ASRock B450 Pro then changed my mind for the MSI B450 Tomahawk because of the VRM.

After that it was the memory decided to future proof it a bit by buying 32GB not because 32GB is faster that all depends on RAM speed but because I had 16GB before and didn't see the point of buying another 16GB. So I scoured my favourite retailer and found 16GB DDR4 2133 for £ 80.75 ex VAT each stick.

I knew it wasn't the fastest but the 16GB of DDR3 1333 had served me well before and I'm not a power user. In hindsight with the price of ocUK faster 3000 stuff for about £ 38 more I should have gone with that but I did save a bit of money and am unlikely to notice the speed difference as I'm not a power user and 32GB/s read speed is perfectly adaquate.

So I paid about £ 550 ex VAT for the components and sold my old CPU, Motherboard, RAM and graphics card for £ 110. So it cost me £ 440 net. This system doubles my 3D Mark Timespy CPU and GPU scores and I have double the RAM and it's faster too. Once again reiterate that 32GB/s read speed is adaquate for my needs although better to buy faster stuff for a little more but I wouldn't buy 3200 stuff.

At the end of the day I have no regrets and am happy with the new system and that's the main thing not what anyone else thinks.
 
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