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AMD's quad-core 'Barcelona' coming in August

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Advanced Micro Devices in August will begin selling its quad-core "Barcelona" Opteron processors, models that answer Intel's current products but soon will face stiffer competition.

The first Barcelona models, formally called Quad-Core Opteron, will run at clock frequencies up to 2GHz and will be available in standard and low-power versions. Faster models, both of the standard and more power-hungry special-edition ilk, will arrive in the fourth quarter, the company said. The first servers using the chips will come in September.
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More: http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-6194022.html?part=rss&tag=2547-1_3-0-20&subj=news

/rubs hands..
 
riddlermarc said:
More: Advanced Micro Devices in August will begin selling its quad-core "Barcelona" Opteron processors, models that answer Intel's current products but soon will face stiffer competition.

The first Barcelona models, formally called Quad-Core Opteron, will run at clock frequencies up to 2GHz and will be available in standard and low-power versions. Faster models, both of the standard and more power-hungry special-edition ilk, will arrive in the fourth quarter, the company said. The first servers using the chips will come in September.

/rubs hands..
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i think thats where they will lose out to intel big time. intel now have 3ghz STOCK chips. and ive seen benchmarks (whether theyre accurate i do not know, so i take it with a pinch of salt) show that even though the intel was clocked higher, it still outperformed it by 58-62%.

hopefully this wont deter people from buying though
 
This release isn't really aimed at the desktop sector though is it?
Low power quads would be popular for the server environment wouldn't they? (I don't know, just assuming...)

I'll wait till they are;
A) Actually released
B) Released in a desktop flavour
C) There's some decent motherboards floating around

Before I make any judgement, I can still see me trying to blag one on the cheap to chuck into my AM2 setup, if they're any good.
 
Cyber-Mav said:
why would people want to buy a cpu thats 50-60% slower than a similar priced one by intel?
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you yourself are using an opteron. not a dig or anything, just saying lots of people use AMD products at this moment in time

edit: even if intels equivalent is better/cheaper etc etc
 
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Cyber-Mav said:
why would people want to buy a cpu thats 50-60% slower than a similar priced one by intel?
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Clock speed doesnt equal performance. :rolleyes:

Why are people STILL living in the good old P4 days of measuring performance by Mhz and Ghz? Did A64 and Core2Duo teach people nothing?

If AMD can match C2D 3Ghz performance with a 2Ghz part, then sorted..... means every mhz gain on overclocking is a greater % performance boost, and ALSO that temps should be pretty cool.

Hey.... i'm waiting for reviews till i pass judgement, remember what the A64 fanboys were saying before the launch of C2D?
 
simonnance said:
Clock speed doesnt equal performance. :rolleyes:

Why are people STILL living in the good old P4 days of measuring performance by Mhz and Ghz? Did A64 and Core2Duo teach people nothing?

If AMD can match C2D 3Ghz performance with a 2Ghz part, then sorted..... means every mhz gain on overclocking is a greater % performance boost, and ALSO that temps should be pretty cool.

Hey.... i'm waiting for reviews till i pass judgement, remember what the A64 fanboys were saying before the launch of C2D?
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Is there any indication this will be the case though? sounds like a big if
 
ergonomics said:
you yourself are using an opteron. not a dig or anything, just saying lots of people use AMD products at this moment in time

edit: even if intels equivalent is better/cheaper etc etc
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Yeah but he may wlel have had the Opteron since well before the C2D was released. WHat is your point?
I bought my AM2 after the release of C2D because i'm notm a big overclocker, it was stupidly cheap and i couldn't afford to spend more on a C2D and i also though that AM2 would be a better platform for me what with the next gen AMD quad cores being backward compatible (not Barcelona but Budapest/Phenom).



mqketucker said:
Is there any indication this will be the case though? sounds like a big if
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No there is not, the indication is that maybe a 2.6-2.8 will be faster than the 3ghz. I'm pretty confident that AMD will ramp up the speeds significantly in the months after launch, though they seem to be having big problems ironing the problems out. Still, there is a good few months for them to sort it before the Phenom X4 is released using the desktop variant of Budapest (Barcelona core but with HT3.0 and a few other things). Let's just hope for AMDs sake that that is not delayed any more. They really need to gain back some sales from Intel and get the profit going again.
 
KangooVanMan said:
Does this mean that clock for clock barcelona will be similar to c2d?
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Certainly AMDs own presentations state that it's approximately 50% faster than A64 but wether that's real or just selective spin is a different matter. If it's true it'll but it on par clock for clock with Penryn based cores. Certainly the leaked Opteron benchmarks point to this as being the case.

It's whether or not they can match the clock speeds of Penryn when overclocked that'll matter to a lot of us here. All in all I don't see that happening.

Jokester
 
Jokester said:
Certainly AMDs own presentations state that it's approximately 50% faster than A64 but wether that's real or just selective spin is a different matter. If it's true it'll but it on par clock for clock with Penryn based cores. Certainly the leaked Opteron benchmarks point to this as being the case.

It's whether or not they can match the clock speeds of Penryn when overclocked that'll matter to a lot of us here. All in all I don't see that happening.

Jokester
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It's actually looking to be a decent bit faster than CD2 and even Penryn based on AMDs own benchmarks. However, most of that is in server benchmarks. Not seen anything on the desktop front as of yet.
I agree with you about the overclocking though. I think Intel will still be the way to go for the next year or so for the enthusiasts. The good thing is that that does not matter for AMD because the bulk of their sales will be from the Server/Corporate markets.


Seems like good news for those with AM2 setups. AMD have announced that the next gen after Agena (Deneb) will have a DDR2/3 controller which means that the AM2 platform will last well in to 2009. Fantastic for doing incremental upgrades. Agena for me at the end of the year, then an AM2+ mobo, then Deneb at the end of 08 then an AM3 mobo with DDR3 memory :).
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Well, I personaly cant wait to see how the Barcelona performs!

I remember when I had a Pentium chips, then when the 3200+ Winchester's came along, I was hooked on AMD. I then moved to the Opteron 146's and then the 170's, the the C2D came along and I was hooked on those, now I'm using a Kentsfield, hooked on it...so when Barce comes out, the cycle begins again! Definately worth a try I think. AMD's backs are too the wall, so they have to pull something decent out of the hat, or theyre in big trouble...

I agree with the previous poster, for some reason I prefer giving my hard earned cash to AMD... :confused:
 
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