america's equivalent to sky?

ElRazur · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:14

Jez said:
At the end of the day though, its not really is it. Sky is £42pm for the full sky+ whack, for that you get loads of channels and the main bonus is the really really good PVR system, arguably the best all rounder on the market.

What else could i buy for £42pm, sod all.

You can get a fully motorised satelite dish and a tuned box for 300pounds or 400 the most. Erm i think the satelite is a bargain.

Jez · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:18

I have a fully motorised satellite system.

Its rubbish in terms of content compared with my standard sky+ system.

ElRazur · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:25

Jez said:
I have a fully motorised satellite system.

Its rubbish in terms of content compared with my standard sky+ system.

First time i am hearing that about satellite system. is your box a good one?

I am sure plenty of people will disagree with you.

Jez · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:28

They can disagree all they want, i am a big satellite enthusiast and have lots of channels which i shouldnt really have. It doesnt stop it all being crap though. Decent english content is limited pretty much to a few canal+ channels which happen to have multiple audio streams. Other than that there is virtually nothing of interest. Sky show infinately more content.

SexyGreyFox · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:28

ElRazur said:
First time i am hearing that about satellite system. is you box an Improved one?

I am sure plenty of people will disagree with you.

Careful what you're talking about El.

Jez said:
i am a big satellite enthusiast

Not big enough it seems.

Jez · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:32

dmpoole said:
Not big enough it seems.

Dont be silly, you and i both know that if sky were free the other systems wouldnt get a second look.

Grandmaster Fap! · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:34

Stiff_Cookie said:
Do you have any problems with Cox Internet? Seems like it has been down a fair bit recently.

Once or twice it has been down but resetting the router seems to fix the problem :confused:

SexyGreyFox · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:38

Jez said:
Dont be silly, you and i both know that if sky were free the other systems wouldnt get a second look.

At least 35 channels of proper porn, a choice of at least 5 premier football matches on a saturday afternoon - no choice.
I have no need for SLY.

Jez · 29 Jun 2006 at 20:41

I am more than fully aware of all the content available. I have 99% of it available to me as long as i keep everything updated.

Simple fact is that there is virtually no english content available. It doesnt matter what kit you have, where you point your antenna, there is simply no content.

There is more football on sky, if thats your thing, with much much better coverage, porn i have no interest in whatsoever so i guess i have glossed over that (again though, its rarely english content).

Sports where the commentry and coverage language doesnt really matter (and porn i guess) is the only area where it works. Day to day viewing it doesnt get a second look.

SexyGreyFox · 29 Jun 2006 at 21:04

Jez said:
I am more than fully aware of all the content available. I have 99% of it available to me as long as i keep everything updated.

Simple fact is that there is virtually no english content available.

Here we go.

Here are my film channels on 19E and 13E. This is not counting the film channels on other satellites and the ones I haven't found.
Every one of them has an English soundtrack.

Grab 1
Grab 2

This is not counting the English speaking programmes like Discovery, Animal Planet, History etc plus music channels.
The football is way better because SKY may show one match on a sunday afternoon but there could be three matches playing and satellite TV will have them all on. Also SKY doesn't show a lot of Premier matches midweek where satellite shows them all.

malfunkshun · 29 Jun 2006 at 22:02

more channels seems to indicate more duplication of shows on UK satellite

(isnt Direct TV part of Murdochs News Corp too?)

Stiff_Cookie · 30 Jun 2006 at 05:14

Castor said:
Once or twice it has been down but resetting the router seems to fix the problem

Last night all of Abilene was down for awhile. Usually resetting the router works for me also. I think its because its requesting a new IP but I dont think its the router

Borris · 30 Jun 2006 at 09:45

Jez said:
really really good PVR system, arguably the best all rounder on the market.

Tivo pees all over Sky+, then waggles its willy around going "ner-ner, nuh, ner-ner, you're crap".

/Tivo-Phan-Buoy

Jez · 30 Jun 2006 at 19:49

I use the 2 tuners extensively and really wish it had more, how does TIVO get around this?

Single tuner would absolutely cripple it.

Caged · 30 Jun 2006 at 21:33

Stiff_Cookie said:
Last night all of Abilene was down for awhile. Usually resetting the router works for me also. I think its because its requesting a new IP but I dont think its the router

Try manually setting your DNS to 4.2.2.1

Stiff_Cookie · 30 Jun 2006 at 21:44

Caged said:
Try manually setting your DNS to 4.2.2.1

OK,

Ill give that a try

Dj_Jestar · 30 Jun 2006 at 21:55

Borris said:
Tivo pees all over Sky+, then waggles its willy around going "ner-ner, nuh, ner-ner, you're crap".

/Tivo-Phan-Buoy

Didn't Sky buy Tivo?

I was working in a well known leccy retailer when both Tivo, then later Sky+ came out.. Tivo was selling like hotcakes, then Sky+ came out and we stopped selling Tivo over night. Not from lack of customers, but we were under orders to remove all stock+signs of Tivo from the shop, the manager even took it to mean we were supposed to deny Tivo ever existed, but he is freak.

pmbuzz · 30 Jun 2006 at 21:58

Borris said:
It's my understanding that a provider is a monopoly when it can set prices at a level that produces super-normal profit, where it can enforce barriers to market entry (other than set-up / infrastructure costs) and there are little to no alternatives to using them.

Like Apple or Microsoft you mean ?

Al Vallario · 30 Jun 2006 at 23:31

Dj_Jestar said:
Didn't Sky buy Tivo?

I was working in a well known leccy retailer when both Tivo, then later Sky+ came out.. Tivo was selling like hotcakes, then Sky+ came out and we stopped selling Tivo over night. Not from lack of customers, but we were under orders to remove all stock+signs of Tivo from the shop, the manager even took it to mean we were supposed to deny Tivo ever existed, but he is freak.

"Sky, bye TiVo UK" — http://digital-lifestyles.info/display_page.asp?section=business&id=720

It's a shame that TiVo got into a pickle here. They were brought over in a deal with Sky (part of News Corp.), which I'm sure looked great on the surface...

It's been alleged, how can I put this delicately, that Sky made it uneconomically viable for TiVo to have a base in the UK for their hardware distribution in the UK...

Whatever the deal was, it wasn't mutually exclusive and appears to be lacking in proper Due Diligence. Sky still continue to developed PVR with NDS, the company they partially floated to the public in 1999. They also did a deal with the UK's Pace, to supply their public PVR offering, Sky+. In true Sky style, they persuaded Pace to supply the boxes to them at under manufacturing cost.

Sky, of course supplied something as part of the TiVo deal. When you call TiVo support in the UK, you get through to Sky's Scottish call centre and your Monthly direct debit is labelled Sky - which is pretty galling.

"TiVo UK General Questions" — http://www.tivo.co.uk/3.2.asp#22

What is BSkyB's involvement with TiVo?
Sky is TiVo's agent in the UK Sky will provide customer service, billing and marketing on behalf of TiVo.

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